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In the Carnot cycle, isothermal heating at constant pressure cannot occur in the superheated region because the working fluid does not change phase, leading to an increase in temperature instead of maintaining it. In contrast, the Rankine cycle allows for operation in the superheated region, where adding heat does not change the phase but can still be managed effectively. The limitations of equipment and practical applications necessitate the use of the Rankine cycle over the idealized Carnot cycle. Thus, while both cycles involve heating, their operational principles differ significantly in superheated conditions. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for thermodynamic applications.
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in carnot cycle isothermal heating at constant pressure cannot be achieved in practice in superheated region why?but in case of raNKINE cycle it can be obtained, WHY?
 
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Hi abhishek.
in carnot cycle isothermal heating at constant pressure cannot be achieved in practice in superheated region why?
Isothermal heating requires that your working fluid change phase. If the fluid is in the superheated region, it isn't changing phase, so it isn't isothermal. Adding energy to a working fluid in the superheated region results in the temperature increasing.

but in case of raNKINE cycle it can be obtained, WHY?
Adding heat in the superheated region doesn't change for any cycle. Adding heat to a superheated fluid will increase the fluid's temperature. The Rankine allows fluid to operate in this superheated region. The Carnot cycle does not. This web page shows a Carnot cycle versus a "real" cycle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Real_vs_Carnot.jpg
Limitations, primarily on equipment, forces us to work with a "real" cycle (Rankine cycle).
 
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