Thermodynamics - Cycle efficiency

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the efficiency of a thermodynamic cycle, specifically focusing on the heat transfers and processes involved in the cycle, including isothermal and adiabatic processes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to compute the efficiency using the relationship between heat transfers, but expresses uncertainty about calculating Qc. Some participants suggest considering the area enclosed by the cycle on a T vs S graph for insights into efficiency.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the efficiency calculation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of a more fundamental equation for efficiency, and caution has been raised about potential complications with certain cycle representations.

Contextual Notes

The original poster seeks additional resources for understanding the topic better and has noted a lack of clarity regarding the physical interpretation of the cycle's area.

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Homework Statement



Compute the efficiency of the following cycle:

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The Attempt at a Solution



I know there's an isothermic process between a and b, where heat comes into the system, let's call it Qh.
I also know that between b and c heat will leave the system, let's call it Qc.
The process from c to a is adiabatic.

The efficiency, n, is equal to:

η = 1- Qc / Qh = 1 - Qc / T2(S2-S1)

The problem is that I don't know how to compute Qc...
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Also, if anyone has a good book on the subject I'd appreciate.

Thanks.
 
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The area enclosed by a cycle on a T vs S graph has a physical interpretation that will help to determine the efficiency.
 
Thank you very much! Sadly I had no idea it had a physical interpretation..
 
Don't use Carnot efficiency equation for the cycle; but use a more fundamental and simpler equation: efficiency = (W/Qh) = (work output from the engine / heat input to the engine). The numerator is obtained from the area of the triangle. You already know how to calculate (the denominator) the heat input to the engine (T2*delta S). The ratio of the two numbers gives the efficiency.

Caution: Cycles involving sloping straight line paths can sometimes be dangerous! For eg the efficiency calculation of similar cyclic triangular paths on PV plane (instead of TS plane) is a very complicated and controversial issue.
 

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