[Thermodynamics] Ideal Gas Properties of Air

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The discussion focuses on the ideal gas properties of air, particularly the concept of standard state entropy (S^0), which is defined as the integral of heat capacity over temperature. Standard state entropy is referenced at absolute zero, distinguishing it from normal entropy. When temperature changes significantly, using constant specific heats can lead to errors in entropy calculations, necessitating the use of temperature-dependent specific heats for accuracy. To simplify calculations, these integrals can be pre-computed and tabulated for easy reference. Additionally, there is a query regarding the variable Vr, which relates to internal energy calculations in thermodynamic processes.
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I was studying the Ideal gas properties of air. Among other properties like h, P_r, U, V_r I also found an S^o. What is this entropy like thing ?
 
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Altairs said:
I was studying the Ideal gas properties of air. Among other properties like h, P_r, U, V_r I also found an S^o. What is this entropy like thing ?

It is the standard state entropy:

S^0 = \int_{T_{ref}}^T \frac{C_p(T)}{T}dT

CS
 
Standard State Entropy ? What's the difference between Standard STate Entropy and the normal Entropy ?
 
Altairs said:
Standard State Entropy ? What's the difference between Standard STate Entropy and the normal Entropy ?

Standard state entropy is just referenced at absolute zero (t,ref in the integral above).

When the temperature change during a process is large and the specific heats of the ideal gas vary nonlinearly within the temperature range, the assumption of constant specific heats may lead to considerable errors in entropy-change calculations. For those cases, the variation of specific heats with temperature should be properly accounted for by utilizing accurate relations for the specific heats as a function of temperature. The entropy change during a process is then determined by substituting those Cv(T) and Cp(T) relations into the entropy equations and integrating.

Instead of performing the laborious integrals each time you have a new process, it is convenient to perform these integrals once and tabulate the results. For this purpose absolute zero is chosen as the reference temperature as defined in the equation above.

One may then simply refer to the tabulated values to determine the entropy change.

CS
 
what is Vr... I know how to get Vr from my text but not sure what it is and what its used for...Im trying to find values for internal energy for an otto cycle question...im working on EES but only know how to get the values for Vr from the text
 
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