[thermodynamics] Is it possible problem.

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The discussion revolves around a thermodynamics problem involving a piston-cylinder device with air, where heat is added to raise the temperature from 21°C to 38°C at constant pressure. Participants calculate the specific work output and analyze the total entropy change, which is positive, suggesting the process could be feasible. However, a professor claims the process is impossible, leading to confusion about missing factors, particularly the specific heat capacity (Cp) of air. One contributor notes that only 17.073 kJ/kg of heat is needed to achieve the temperature increase, raising questions about the implications of Cp on the process's feasibility. The thread highlights the complexities in thermodynamic calculations and the importance of accurate parameters in determining process viability.
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[thermodynamics] "Is it possible" problem.

Air in a piston-cylinder device, heat input
Initially: T1 = 21Celsius, P1 = 2 atm
Finally: T2 = 38Celsius, P2 = 2 atm = P1 (isobaric)
Heat source: TH = 260Celsius, qH = 23 kJ/kg (heat input)
Find:
a) specific work output, w =?
b) whether the process is possible?

Illustration figure can be found here:
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The process have a positive total entropy change but the professor said it is impossible, positive total entropy change is true but still something missing, anyone know what is it?
 
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Have you calculated the temperature increase when 23 kJ is added to one kilogram of air?
 
Mapes said:
Have you calculated the temperature increase when 23 kJ is added to one kilogram of air?

Genius guy! we actually only need a qH of 17.073kJ/kg to raise the temperture of air to 38Celsius, but I'm not sure if it's the answer that the professor wanted, because Cp was not given, if Cp by some reason becomes large then it's still possible.
 
Here's a little detail about my solution:
from 1st law:
delta(u) = q - w

q = 23kJ/kg
delta(u) = u2 - u1 = 221.25 - 210.40 = 10.85 kJ/kg (u obtained from table)
=> w = 23kJ - 10.85 kJ/kg = 12.15kJ/kg

Entropy change of the system: (treated as ideal gas):
delta(s)system = Cp*ln(T2/T1) = 1.005*ln(311K/294K)=0.00565kJ/kgK

Entropy change of surrounding:
delta(s)surround = q/T = 23/533K = 0.04315kJ/kgK

delta(s)total = delta(s)surround - delta(s)system = 0.04315kJ/kgK - 0.00565kJ/kgK = 0.0375kJ/kgK (>0)

Total Entropy change is larger than zero, the process seems to be possible...
what's missing ?
 
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