Things vs Coordinates-of-Things

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The discussion emphasizes the importance of distinguishing between mathematical objects, such as angles, and their coordinates, like 0 degrees and 360 degrees. It suggests that introducing this distinction earlier in education could clarify misconceptions about angles being "the same" despite having different coordinate representations. The conversation highlights that teaching angles as coordinates could alleviate confusion, especially in contexts where different turns yield different outcomes. It also notes that coordinate systems can be redundant, allowing the same angle to be represented by different numerical values. Ultimately, a clearer understanding of angles and their coordinates could enhance mathematical comprehension.
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In advanced mathematics, one must eventually learn the distinction between a mathematical object and some coordinates of that object. For example, eventually students are supposed to understand that a "vector" is not an n-tuple of numbers.

I wonder why this distinction is not introduced in elementary mathematics when students are taught about angles. Perhaps it wouldn't be simple!

Teaching students that numbers like 0 degrees and 360 degrees are coordinates of angles instead of being angles would relieve the teacher of having to double-talk about them being "different, but really the same" angle. Yet there are situations when zero degrees and 360 degrees denote different things. For example, a moving object making a "turn of 360 degrees" is different than its making a "turn of zero degrees".

Perhaps teaching angles in a way that made sense would involve teaching both equivalance relations and coordinate systems.
 
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It's not clear what 'coordinates of angles' means.
 
SteamKing said:
It's not clear what 'coordinates of angles' means.

Coordinate systems are permitted to be redundant. In some coordinate systems, the same thing can be represented by different coordinates. The numbers 0 and 360 are obviously different numbers. If you want to talk about them representing "the same angle" in a logically consistent manner then you have to do it without contradicting the fact that 0 and 360 are different numbers. Considering values in degrees to be a method of assigning coordinates to an angle would be one way of doing this. There might be others.
 
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