Thinking about a second bachelor's or master's, which route should I take?

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The discussion revolves around the participant's consideration of pursuing further education, specifically whether to obtain a second bachelor's degree in physics or engineering, or to pursue a master's degree in mechanical engineering or physics. The conversation touches on the participant's background in chemistry, their experience with physics, and their interests in aerospace engineering and computer sciences.

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  • The participant expresses uncertainty about whether to pursue a second bachelor's degree or a master's degree, weighing the time and financial implications of each option.
  • Some participants suggest that pursuing a master's degree may be more beneficial and marketable than obtaining another bachelor's degree.
  • There is a concern raised about the participant's readiness for a master's program given their previous struggles in introductory physics courses.
  • One participant notes that many master's programs may require remedial coursework for those without a strong physics background, but emphasizes that it is achievable.
  • Another participant warns that transitioning from a chemistry background to a master's in physics may require significant effort and may not lead to clear vocational outcomes unless in specialized fields like medical physics or geophysics.
  • Some participants argue that pursuing a double degree is only sensible if it is necessary for professional certification or if it aligns closely with the participant's career goals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and advisability of pursuing a master's degree versus a second bachelor's degree. There is no consensus on the best path forward, with some advocating for the master's route while others caution against it due to the participant's prior academic struggles.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for remedial work and the potential challenges of transitioning from a chemistry background to physics or engineering. The discussion reflects varying opinions on what constitutes "useful" education and the marketability of different degrees.

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Individuals considering further education in STEM fields, particularly those with non-physics backgrounds contemplating a shift to physics or engineering, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi all, I'm new around here but I've checked out the site several times, thought it might be a good place to get some feedback. I graduated from the University of Georgia with a BS Chem in 2013, and have spent the last year working in sales. I'm now situated in Lubbock, TX (where Texas Tech is located) and have been considering going back to school, but I'm not sure which direction I should go.

I've always had a knack for math; my best grades in school were without question in Calculus and I've always felt very satisfied when rolling through homework and getting the answers correct. I have an interest in Physics but I don't have a very strong education in it. I never took Physics in high school (did AP Bio II and AP Chem II instead) and I didn't have the greatest professor for Phys I and II at UGA. With tutoring I was able to net Bs in those classes, but I always felt like I was struggling to grasp some important concepts. I would spend an hour and a half working through a problem, getting the wrong answer, checking my work, starting over, etc. The math would end up being fine, but I would have missed a force being applied, or applied it in the wrong direction, or something to that effect that would throw my end results off.

To further profile myself I'm also interested in aerospace engineering and anything that allows me to build/work with my hands, as well as computer sciences (I built my first computer when I was in 7th grade and have always enjoyed putting things together). Getting to the point, I'm wondering if I should go for a second bachelor's in physics or engineering, or should I just go all in and shoot for a mechanical engineering or physics MS? I imagine there will be considerable carry over as far as basic classes required for the second bachelors, so the amount of time needed to get a second BS would be shorter, but I don't want to waste the money "broadening my horizons", I want to be doing something that will be useful going forward. I worry that trying to get a masters might be too difficult given my lack of a real physics background, although I'm optimistic that with a good professor and a strong learning environment I will be able to overcome my shortcomings. Any and all input is welcome and appreciated!
 
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Thanks for the post! Sorry you aren't generating responses at the moment. Do you have any further information, come to any new conclusions or is it possible to reword the post?
 
You're probably better off with an MS than a second BS. It may not take any longer or cost any more. I'd go for that. The key is you need to be able to tell a "story" to the admissions committee about why they should admit you. It might be easier to relate your experience to CS than areospace engineering. Good luck!
 
Dan Rose said:
Hi all, I'm new around here but I've checked out the site several times, thought it might be a good place to get some feedback. I graduated from the University of Georgia with a BS Chem in 2013, and have spent the last year working in sales. I'm now situated in Lubbock, TX (where Texas Tech is located) and have been considering going back to school, but I'm not sure which direction I should go.

I've always had a knack for math; my best grades in school were without question in Calculus and I've always felt very satisfied when rolling through homework and getting the answers correct. I have an interest in Physics but I don't have a very strong education in it. I never took Physics in high school (did AP Bio II and AP Chem II instead) and I didn't have the greatest professor for Phys I and II at UGA. With tutoring I was able to net Bs in those classes, but I always felt like I was struggling to grasp some important concepts. I would spend an hour and a half working through a problem, getting the wrong answer, checking my work, starting over, etc. The math would end up being fine, but I would have missed a force being applied, or applied it in the wrong direction, or something to that effect that would throw my end results off.

To further profile myself I'm also interested in aerospace engineering and anything that allows me to build/work with my hands, as well as computer sciences (I built my first computer when I was in 7th grade and have always enjoyed putting things together). Getting to the point, I'm wondering if I should go for a second bachelor's in physics or engineering, or should I just go all in and shoot for a mechanical engineering or physics MS? I imagine there will be considerable carry over as far as basic classes required for the second bachelors, so the amount of time needed to get a second BS would be shorter, but I don't want to waste the money "broadening my horizons", I want to be doing something that will be useful going forward. I worry that trying to get a masters might be too difficult given my lack of a real physics background, although I'm optimistic that with a good professor and a strong learning environment I will be able to overcome my shortcomings. Any and all input is welcome and appreciated!
Many Master's programs will look at your transcript and tell you what you may need to take as far as remedial coursework for their program. You may have to work a little harder at times than someone with an undergraduate degree in physics. But that's OK. It will be worth it. A master's degree is far more marketable to prospective employers than another bachelor's degree. I was surprised to learn that Leonard Susskind, that legendary string theorist in Stanford, had an undergraduate degree in engineering before deciding he wanted to pursue physics in graduate school. Lots of people do that. It's doable.
 
There's a HUGE gap to get from struggling to get Bs in a first year physics class that you took probably 6 years ago to a master's degree in physics. If you really want to go that way, that's okay. I'm sure that there's a lot of overlap with some of your courses. But it will take some remedial work. I don't think it's a reasonable plan to jump into something like that.

The next thing to consider what you mean by "doing something useful." Pursuing a master's degree in physics will educate you in physics, but it's probably not going to qualify you for much in the commercial world unless you go into one of the more professional branches such as medical physics or geophysics. So even if you do get through, you'll still have to figure out how that is going to translate into a vocation.

There's a similar concern about engineering. I would imagine that jumping from a BSc in chemistry to a master's degree in chemical engineering is reasonable, but probably less so the further away you move - such as into computer science or engineering. If your primary concern at this point it to build up professionably marketable skills, I would look for a program that's going to give you those.
 
Just move to a MSc and then a PhD. Just do what is needed to adjust to your interests along the way. There are always interdisciplinary areas of research.

Double degree only makes a lot of sense if you need it to get professional certification to do your job. Like a lawyer or a doctor. Or if you have one in a technical field and one in a management/economy field.
 

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