Thomson and Rutherford's experiments

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The discussion revolves around the implications of Thomson's "plum pudding" model in the context of Rutherford's gold foil experiment, specifically regarding the behavior of alpha particles when fired at gold foil.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the consequences of Thomson's model on the expected outcomes of Rutherford's experiment, questioning whether alpha particles would pass through without deflection or experience deflections.

Discussion Status

Some participants express uncertainty about the outcomes based on their understanding of atomic structure, with one noting a previous attempt that was incorrect. There is an exploration of how the distribution of mass within the atom might affect particle deflection.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of atomic models and the assumptions underlying their interpretations of experimental results, particularly regarding the existence and distribution of atomic nuclei.

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If Thomson's "plum pudding" model was correct, what could have happened when Rutherford fired high energy alpha particles at gold foil?Select all that are True.
Alpha particles are reflected.
Alpha particles pass right through with no deflection.
Alpha particles experience small deflections.
Alpha particles experience large deflections.
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I understand Thomson had discovered that atoms are composite objects, made of pieces with positive and negative charge, and that the negatively charged electrons within the atom were very small compared to the entire atom. Also, how Rutherford's Gold Foil Experiment proved the existence of a small massive center to atoms, which would later be known as the nucleus of an atom.

Wouldn't this mean Alpha particles would pass right through with no deflection since a nucleus hasn't been established yet?
 
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I believe the right answer is
Alpha particles pass right through with no deflection.
 
That is what I tried and it was wrong :(
 
The positive nuclei have the largest mass and would then be evenly distributed throughout the "pudding".
How would such a distribution influence the deflection?
The large deflection observed in the real experiment came about as a result of the nuclei being bound together in one large concentrated mass.
 

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