How Does Charge Distribute on Varying Radii Conducting Spheres?

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In summary, the problem involves calculating the fraction of charge that distributes itself on the inner and outer surfaces of a sphere x, which is held at a constant potential V with respect to two fixed, grounded spheres a and b. The surface charge density on sphere a, denoted as \sigma_a, is related to the potential difference between the two spheres and varies as a function of x. When x=a, the surface charge density on the inner sphere becomes infinite due to the unphysical demand for the potential to be both V and zero in the same region of space at the same time.
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I have three concentric metal, conducting spheres, of radii a < x < b.

The spheres a and b are fixed, while x can vary over the range from a to b.

Spheres a and b are also grounded, while sphere x is maintained at a constant potential V with respect to these two spheres.

The charge on sphere x will distribute itself partly on the "inner" surface of the sphere (that facing a) and partly on the "outer" surface of the sphere (that facing b). I would like to calculate what fraction of charge distributes itself on the inside and outside surfaces of sphere x as a function of x (i.e., as x varies from a to b).

Some charge will be induced on sphere a. Denote the surface density of this charge as [tex]\sigma_a[/tex]. We have:

[tex]Q_a = 4\pi a^2 \sigma_a[/tex]

and in the region between a and x, the electric field is given by:

[tex]E = \frac{4\pi a^2\sigma_a}{r^2}[/tex]

while the potential is given by:

[tex]\phi = -\frac{4\pi a^2 \sigma_a}{r}[/tex]

From which we get that the potential difference between the two spheres is:

[tex]\frac{4\pi a^2 \sigma_a (x-a)}{xa} = \frac{4\pi a \sigma_a (x-a)}{x} = V[/tex]

Since we're holding the potential difference V constant, and anticipating that the surface charge density changes as a function of time, we can express this (perhaps more clearly) as:

[tex]V = \frac{4\pi a (x-a)\sigma_a(x) }{x}[/tex]

Solving for the surface charge density on the inner sphere as a function of x and V, we have:

[tex]\sigma_a(x) = \frac{Vx}{4\pi a (x-a)}[/tex]

There are other components to this problem, and other reasons I have for wanting to solve this particular problem, but even here the problem that I'm running into raises its head: that is, if we look at the surface charge density when x=a, the answer diverges. In other words, [tex]\sigma_a(a) \rightarrow \infty[/tex].

This doesn't seem correct to me.. rather it seems that the surface charge density on the inner sphere should remain finite, in such a way [tex]4\pi a^2 \sigma_a(a) = Q[/tex], where Q is the total charge on sphere x.

Is there something wrong in my reasoning here?
 
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You are correct being bothered by what happens when x = a, but you shouldn't be and there is nothing wrong with your reasoning. Remember where you started from. The potential on a sphere of radius x is fixed at the value V and the potential on a sphere of radius a is also fixed at the value zero. If you say x = a you are demanding that the potential be V and zero in the same region of space at the same time. That is unphysical.

Now look what happens as x approaches a. The charge density must increase because for the same potential difference you have a higher and higher electric field in the gap region. Another way to look at it is this: Suppose you have a parallel plate capacitor connected to a battery. As you bring the plates closer together, the charge on them increases because the capacitance increases. In the limit the plate separation goes to zero, the charge becomes infinite. Same thing here except that you have a spherical, not parallel plate, capacitor.
 
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I would first like to commend you for your thorough and detailed explanation of the problem at hand. It is clear that you have a strong understanding of the concepts involved and have put a lot of thought into your approach.

One possible explanation for the divergence of the surface charge density at x=a is that the equations you are using assume a continuous charge distribution. However, in reality, charges are discrete particles and cannot be distributed continuously. This could lead to some discrepancies in your calculations, especially at the boundary points.

Another factor to consider is the effect of the electric field on the charge distribution. As you move from a to b, the electric field will also change and this could affect the distribution of charges on the inner and outer surfaces of sphere x. It is possible that the equations you are using do not fully account for this effect.

In order to address these issues, I would recommend further research and experimentation. You could try using a more precise model that takes into account the discrete nature of charges, or consider the effects of the electric field on the charge distribution. Additionally, conducting experiments to measure the actual charge distribution on the inner and outer surfaces of sphere x could provide valuable insights and help validate your calculations.

Overall, it is important to remember that science is an ongoing process and there is always room for improvement and further investigation. I encourage you to continue exploring this problem and seeking out new solutions and perspectives.
 

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