Time elapsed for observer (from POV of Traveler)

  • Thread starter Thread starter Wakefulpanda
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Observer Time
Wakefulpanda
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
Hey guys,

I have a question about elapsed time of the observer from the POV of the traveler.

To make things simple I'll just basically explain what my question is.

Person A is the observer (on earth) and person B is the traveler (flying at close to the speed of light)

Person A's clock elapses 1 minute. Person A sees person B's clock elapse 30 seconds. (I'm just using these times as an easier example)

In Person A's frame of reference he/himself has aged 1 minute and person B has aged 30 seconds.

Person B sitting aboard his spacecraft sees that for him 30 seconds have passed.

Now here is my question. If person B (traveling) were to observe person A (on earth) would person B (seeing that his clock elapsed 30 seconds) see person A's clock elapse 15 seconds? Since A is moving away from B (in B's frame of reference) B should see A's clock slowing.

If I am confusing something in my writing or confusing you with the question let me know.


Thanks so much for all your help.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Your question depends on what you mean by 'see'. Seeing as by using a measuring instrument would give a different clock rate based on the relativistic Doppler formula, in this case the other clock may be faster or slower depending on the direction of travel. However by taking into account light travel time you would have to apply the Lorentz factor, in this case the clock rate is always slower.
 
Passionflower said:
Your question depends on what you mean by 'see'. Seeing as by using a measuring instrument would give a different clock rate based on the relativistic Doppler formula, in this case the other clock may be faster or slower depending on the direction of travel. However by taking into account light travel time you would have to apply the Lorentz factor, in this case the clock rate is always slower.

Thank you for your speedy reply to my question. Yes my question is based on the assumption that person B is traveling away from person A. This is yet another situation that is confusing me. A sees 1 minute pass for himself, A sees 30 seconds pass for B. B sees 30 seconds pass for himself, B sees 15 seconds pass for A. (And by sees I mean any instrument to measure, theoretical or otherwise)

Right now my brain is all sorts of confused. I can't figure out what I'm missing.
 
Last edited:
Thread 'Can this experiment break Lorentz symmetry?'
1. The Big Idea: According to Einstein’s relativity, all motion is relative. You can’t tell if you’re moving at a constant velocity without looking outside. But what if there is a universal “rest frame” (like the old idea of the “ether”)? This experiment tries to find out by looking for tiny, directional differences in how objects move inside a sealed box. 2. How It Works: The Two-Stage Process Imagine a perfectly isolated spacecraft (our lab) moving through space at some unknown speed V...
Does the speed of light change in a gravitational field depending on whether the direction of travel is parallel to the field, or perpendicular to the field? And is it the same in both directions at each orientation? This question could be answered experimentally to some degree of accuracy. Experiment design: Place two identical clocks A and B on the circumference of a wheel at opposite ends of the diameter of length L. The wheel is positioned upright, i.e., perpendicular to the ground...
In Philippe G. Ciarlet's book 'An introduction to differential geometry', He gives the integrability conditions of the differential equations like this: $$ \partial_{i} F_{lj}=L^p_{ij} F_{lp},\,\,\,F_{ij}(x_0)=F^0_{ij}. $$ The integrability conditions for the existence of a global solution ##F_{lj}## is: $$ R^i_{jkl}\equiv\partial_k L^i_{jl}-\partial_l L^i_{jk}+L^h_{jl} L^i_{hk}-L^h_{jk} L^i_{hl}=0 $$ Then from the equation: $$\nabla_b e_a= \Gamma^c_{ab} e_c$$ Using cartesian basis ## e_I...

Similar threads

Back
Top