Time for Two Balls to Reach Same Height

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for a red ball, thrown downward from a height of 27 meters, and a blue ball, thrown upward from 0.8 meters, to reach the same height. The key equations involve setting their height equations equal, but inconsistencies in sign conventions and direction choices are causing errors in the calculations. Participants emphasize the importance of maintaining consistent signs for acceleration and position based on the chosen coordinate system. The acceleration due to gravity is downward for both balls, and the origin should be defined clearly to avoid confusion. The thread highlights the need for careful attention to these details to arrive at the correct solution.
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Homework Statement


A red ball is thrown down with an initial speed of 1.0 m/s from a height of 27.0 meters above the ground. Then, 0.4 seconds after the red ball is thrown, a blue ball is thrown upward with an initial speed of 24.8 m/s, from a height of 0.8 meters above the ground. The force of gravity due to the Earth results in the balls each having a constant downward acceleration of 9.81 m/s2.
How long after the red ball is thrown, will the two balls be in the air at the same height.

Homework Equations


X=X(initial)+v(initial)t+1/2at^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I set the equations equal to each other for each ball (making x the same) so I got..
27+1t+4.9t^2=24.8(t-.4)+4.9(t-.4)^2
After factoring and so on, I got to..
35.96=19.88t
t=1.8
This is not correct, where am I going wrong?
 
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Welcome to PF n_nason!You're not being consistent with signs. Choose upward to be either the positive x-direction, or the negative x direction, but stick with your choice.
 
So say I make the second half of my equation...
-24.8(t-.4)-4.9(t-.4)^2
Then my equation would be...
1t+4.9t^2+27=-24.8(t-.4)-4.9(t-.4)^2
My acceleration would not cancel, is that the right track?
 
What happened to the 0.8 metres?

EDIT: also, the acceleration is in the SAME direction for both balls (downward). So why do the two 4.9s have different signs? Gravity didn't suddenly become upward.

Also, if your origin (x = 0) is at the ground level, and you've chosen upward to be the negative x-direction, then all of your positions should be negative as well.
 
Oh, right that makes sense.
Still not getting the correct answer,
1t+4.9t^2+27=-24.8t+9.92+4.9t^2-3.92t+.784+.8
is my simplified answer
canceling acceleration and solving for t I get,
29.72t=-15.496
t=-1.92
 
Again, you chose upward to be the negative x-direction, so all of your positions should be negative.
 
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