Time it takes for the wheel to stop?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for a potter's wheel to stop after the power is cut, given its dimensions and the friction force applied by the potter. Initial calculations suggest an angular acceleration of 0.93 radians/second², leading to an estimated stopping time of 19.2 seconds based on the wheel's initial angular velocity. However, confusion arises regarding the application of force on the pot versus the wheel, affecting torque calculations. Subsequent estimates for stopping time vary, with one participant suggesting 118 seconds and another arriving at 119.7 seconds. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying torque principles to determine the accurate stopping time.
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A 34-cm-diameter potter's wheel with a mass of 20 kg is spinning at 180 rpm. Using her hands, a potter forms a pot, centered on the wheel, with a 14 cm diameter. Her hands apply a net friction force of 1.3 N to the edge of the pot. If the power goes out, so that the wheel's motor no longer provides any torque, how long will it take for the wheel to come to a stop in her hands?

Angular acceleration= net Torque/moment of inertia so

(1.3)(.07)/ (20 *.07^2)= .93 radians/second^2

So since angular acceleration=change in angular Velocity/time then:

-.98 = (0-19.8)/change in time so t=19.2 seconds.

Where the initial angular velocity was 19.8 by converting the 180 rev/min to 19.8 radians/sec.

So is my answer of 19.2 seconds correct?

Thank you kindly for your help.
 
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Check the moment of inertia of the wheel whose diameter is 34 cm.
 
So that's MR^2 which is 20 * .17^2= .578 but how does this help me?
 
sona1177 said:
So that's MR^2 which is 20 * .17^2= .578 but how does this help me?


angular acceleration α = (1.3)(.07)/ (20 *.17^2)= ... radians/second^2

ω = ωο - α*t

In the problem ω = 0 and ωο = 6*π radians/second.

Now find t.
 
Thank you but she applies the force on the pot not on the wheel so this is why I am confused.
 
sona1177 said:
Thank you but she applies the force on the pot not on the wheel so this is why I am confused.

Torque depends on the point of application of the force. Therefore the torque is F*r, where r is the radius of the pot. This torque rotates the wheel with an angular acceleration such that F*r = I*α.
 
Thank you so much for taking the time to help me! :)
 
My answer is 118 seconds. Is that correct? Again, thank you so much for taking the time to help me! :)
 
sona1177 said:
My answer is 118 seconds. Is that correct? Again, thank you so much for taking the time to help me! :)

I am getting 119.7 seconds.
 
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