Time it takes to transmit signal to satellite (modern physics)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for a signal to travel between two cities that are 3,500 km apart, with a communication satellite orbiting 36,000 km above Earth. The Pythagorean theorem is used to find the distance from each city to the satellite, but there is confusion regarding the satellite's position relative to the cities. The speed of light is emphasized as the transmission speed for the signal, leading to the formula distance divided by speed equals time. Some participants suggest corrections for the curvature of the Earth and the satellite's actual position, indicating that the initial calculations may be inaccurate. Ultimately, the estimated transmission time is around 0.24 seconds, but this figure may not be precise due to the assumptions made.
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Homework Statement



A communication satellite is orbiting 36 000 km above Earth’s surface. Two cities, 3500 km apart are transmitting to and receiving signals from each other. Find the time required to transmit a signal from one city to the other. They are equidistant from the satellite.

h = 36000 km = 3.6 x 107 m
d = 3500 km = 3.5 x 106 m
t = ?

Homework Equations



Pythagorean theorem to find l, but I'm not sure what equation to use to find time! Any help?

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the length of the hypotenuse between each town and the satellite:

l = √((3.6 x 107)2 + (3.5 x 106)2) = 3.60 x 107 m.

How do I go along from there?
 
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They are equidistant from the satellite
But your hypothenusa calculation seems to suggest the satellite is right above one of the cities ?! (Either that, or the towns are 7000 km apart...)

Another thing: You a member of the flat Earth society ? Make a drawing ! Not a big correction, but nevertheless...

You may assume the signal is not a mail pigeon, but an electromagnetic wave (e.g. a radio signal or a light signal). Such waves travel with the speed of light. Distance / speed = time ! Bingo!
 
salmayoussef said:

Homework Statement



A communication satellite is orbiting 36 000 km above Earth’s surface. Two cities, 3500 km apart are transmitting to and receiving signals from each other. Find the time required to transmit a signal from one city to the other. They are equidistant from the satellite.

h = 36000 km = 3.6 x 107 m
d = 3500 km = 3.5 x 106 m
t = ?

Homework Equations



Pythagorean theorem to find l, but I'm not sure what equation to use to find time! Any help?

velocity = distance/time

The problem never states that the satellite must be directly above the point in the middle of the line between the cities. The satellite could be just above the horizon in both cities, and somewhat more than the radius of the Earth would be added to the distance.
 
I got the answer as being 0.24 seconds which I think is right! Thank you. :)
 
What would you get as answer when the two cities are 1 km apart ?

By the way, l = √((3.6 x 107)2 + (3.5 x 106)2) = 3.60 x 107 m is wrong. Not by much, I concede.

Wim points out something sensible, but I dare to assume the satellite is above the halfway point.

Even then a correction due to the Earth being round is needed! Both to the 36000 and to the 3500 km! Make the drawing.

Good thing I'm not teacher. 0.24 s wouldn't cut the cake in my class...
 
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