Tire stuck in mud - energy conservation

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving a tire stuck in mud, where mud is splashed from the tire. The key equation provided for the maximum height the mud can reach is h_max=R+v^2/(2g)+gR^2/(2v^2), derived from conservation of energy principles. Participants clarify that the initial kinetic energy from the tire's spinning is converted into gravitational potential energy, and the radius of the tire plays a crucial role in determining the height at which the mud leaves the tire. There is also a consideration of the mud's trajectory after leaving the tire, which follows a parabolic path influenced by gravitational acceleration. The discussion emphasizes the need to account for both the initial height and the velocity of the mud to accurately solve the problem.
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Rg. Without air resistance, show the maximum height snow can reach is h_max=R+v^2/(2g)+gR^2/(2v^2)
Solve using conservation of energy

How do I start this problem? I assume all the initial kinetic energy ((mv^2)/2) from the spinning of the tire is translated to the gravitational potential energy (mgh) but how does the radius fit into the equation? Help please?" slated to the gravitational potential energy (mgh) but how does the radius fit into the equation? Help please?
 
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Daniokano said:
Without air resistance, show the maximum height snow can reach is h_max=R+v^2/(2g)+gR^2/(2v^2)
Please express the problem clearly.
Is snow traversing any path?
 
My apologies, I didn't copy the question out correctly :

The problem statement, all known variables and given data

A car is stuck in the mud and mud is splashed around the rim of the tires. Assume that the radius of a tire is R and is spinning at a speed v>Rg. Without air resistance, show the maximum height the mud can reach is h_max=R+v^2/(2g)+gR^2/(2v^2)
Solve using conservation of energy

2.Relevant Equations
Ei=Ef
Ei=(1/2)mv2
Ef=mgh

How do I start this problem? I assume all the initial kinetic energy ((mv^2)/2) from the spinning of the tireis translated to the gravitational potential energy (mgh) using E_i=E_f, but how does the radius fit into the equation?
 
Daniokano said:
How do I start this problem? I assume all the initial kinetic energy ((mv^2)/2) from the spinning of the tireis translated to the gravitational potential energy (mgh) using E_i=E_f, but how does the radius fit into the equation?
You should also consider the height where the mud leaves the tire.
 
willem2 said:
You should also consider the height where the mud leaves the tire.

OK, so without use of conservation of energy, I assumed the height the mud left the tire is R. Now the velocity of the the mud is given v_t and the only acceleration effecting the mud is -g.

y(t) = R + v_t*t - (g*t^2)/2

v(t) = v_t - g*t

a(t) = - g

Max height is reached when v(t) = 0, solve for t.

t = v_t/g

Sub for t to find subsequent height

h_max = R + (v_t)^2/g - (v_t)^2/(2g)

h_max = R + (v_t)^2/(2g)
 
However this does not account for the gR^2/(2v^2) (given in the solution)

Any ideas?
 
When centrepetal force(adhesion) no longer can hold the mud or snow it goes in a parabolic path with the maximum (as required in problem by a part of mud as there are many portions of mud being slung at lower trajectories also) trajectory.It means we need initial velocity of that maximum trajectory and the portion is now free of tyre.Rest is now the usual path of a projectile problem.
 
Daniokano said:
I assumed the height the mud left the tire is R
Why assumed R?
 
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