To find the reaction in a system at a ring

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The discussion focuses on calculating the reaction force at a ring in a system involving internal forces and moments. The user has derived equations for horizontal and vertical forces and moments about points A, B, and C, leading to a consistent result for R_A. The key challenge is finding the components Rx and Ry to determine the overall reaction R. By recognizing that the reaction force must be perpendicular to a specific line, the user successfully substitutes values and confirms that R equals w/2. The calculations and reasoning align with the book's answer, providing clarity on the problem.
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Homework Statement
To find the reaction in a system at a ring
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Could I ask for a hint as to where to go next with this question please?

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I've done this first part, to find the reaction on the wall. Here's my diagram:

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I've labelled the internal forces at B in red.

In green I've shown the reaction at the ring.

So I need to find sqrt(Rx^2 + Ry^2) = R.

So I need to find Rx and Ry in order to calculate R.

For the whole system:

Vertically: R_C + Ry = 3w
Horizontally: R_A + Rx = F

For BA only:

Vertically Y = w
Horizontally: R_A = X
Moments about B gives: R_A * a sin(30) = w * (a/2) * cos(30) which yields R_A = sqrt(3)*W/2 as required.

Now that we know R_A, for whole system:

Taking moments about C leads to: sqrt(3)*Rx + Ry = w

Not sure how to proceed.

If I take moments about C for BC only, this leads to the same equation sqrt(3)*Rx + Ry = w

If I take moments about D for BC only this yields: R_C - sqrt(3)*F = w/2

All my answers above are consistent with the book answer, but I can't see how to proceed.

Book answers is: R = sqrt(Rx^2 + Ry^2) = w/2

So, I am trying to find Rx and Ry in order to calculate R.

Thanks for any pointers.
 
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The ring is smooth. Can you deduce from this anything about the direction of the reaction force ## \vec R##?
 
Yes, of course, thank you. The reaction force R must be perpendicular to CB, and so using my already derived formula sqrt(3)*Rx + Ry = W and replacing Rx with R cos(30) and Ry with R sin(30) I find that R = w/2 as required. Thank you very much indeed.
 
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