Torque/rotational motion question

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The discussion centers on solving a torque and rotational motion problem involving a person standing on tiptoe, with specific forces acting on the foot. The participant initially struggles with the equations of torque and the role of gravitational force in the system. They attempt various approaches, including changing the axis of rotation and assuming angles, but find inconsistencies in their results. A suggestion is made to simplify the torque equation by removing unnecessary sine components and to apply the sum of forces in both x and y directions for additional equations. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly applying fundamental physics principles to solve the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


A person standing on tiptoe, the position of the foot is as shown. *The total gravitational force on the body Fg is supported by the force n exerted by the floor on the toes of one foot. A mechanical model for the situation is shown in Figure P10.70b (http://www.piercecollege.edu/faculty/meyermd/Physics%2066/P66%20Homework/Chapter%2010%20HW%20PDF.pdf Problem 70) where T is the force exerted by the Achilles tendon on the foot and R is the force exerted by the tibia on the foot. Find the values of T,R, and θ when Fg = 700N


Homework Equations


torque(tau) = r x F (that's r cross F)

The Attempt at a Solution


I assumed that the Fg and the normal force cancel out from the 2nd line in the problem statement. I also tried moving the Fg to different positions, but the answers don't seem correct. Using hte \sumof torques, whereas the axis of rotation is at the toes(normal force), i got torque = 0 = -.18 * R * sin(θ) + .25 * T, I don't think that's R sin(θ) because R is not the hypotenuse. I also tried assuming that θis 15 degrees, and that R was perpendicular to the Foot. Other than the sum of torques, I don't know what other formulas to use, or what kind of approach to take for this problem.
Another method I used was to move the axis of rotation around, and use 4 equations for 4 unknowns, but that proved to be an incorrect method (the results didnt seem correct). I also think that the Fg = 700 N is supposed to come into the equation somewhere, and not cancel out with the normal force, but I have no idea what to do with that if it's not canceled. Can anyone help me with an approach I can take to solve this problem? Thanks
 
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torque = 0 = -.18 * R * sin(θ) + .25 * T

the sin(theta) shouldn't be there. torque is the force times the perpendicular distance from the pivot to the line of the force... you had the T part right. so it should be:

torque = 0 = -.18 * R + .25 * T

that's one equation.

you get 2 more equations by setting sum of forces in x-direction = 0 and sum of forces in y-direction = 0.
 
thx

Thanks for the help, can't believe i forgot the basics of sum of the forces lol
 
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