Total energy within a specific region.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total energy within a cubical region containing a variable electric field described by E=E0(x/x0). The participants clarify the integration process needed to find the energy density, which is given by 1/2ε0E^2. A key point of confusion was correctly incorporating the squared terms from the electric field into the integral. After addressing the integration steps and ensuring the correct variables were included, the original poster successfully arrived at the correct answer. The conversation highlights the importance of careful attention to detail in physics calculations.
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Homework Statement


A cubical region 1.0 m on a side is located between x=0 and x=1 m. The region contains an electric field whose magnitude varies with x but is independent of y and z: E=E0(x/x0), where E0 = 32 kV/m and x0 = 6.0 m . The answer needs to be in μ J.

Find the total energy in this region.

Homework Equations


E=E0(x/x0)
∫u * dV

The Attempt at a Solution


So I took the integral and got 1/2ε0(E0)(x/x0)^2. When I plug in the numbers I get 3.933 μJ which is wrong? Am I missing a step?
 
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Exactly what integration did you set up? If you check the units on what you currently have you'll find that they don't work out to Joules.

I'd expect the result to involve the square of the field strength and involve some measure of the volume.
 
gneill said:
Exactly what integration did you set up? If you check the units on what you currently have you'll find that they don't work out to Joules.

I'd expect the result to involve the square of the field strength and involve some measure of the volume.
I did use the volume as just 12 since there is no dependence in the y and z directions so it was all in the x. So I simply used the integral ∫u * dV where dV is 12 and u is everything else. The constants are pulled out leaving me with an x which becomes x2 along with a 1/2 out front. I believe that should be correct?
 
What is the "everything else" that is u?

For an electric field the energy per unit volume (energy density) is given by ##\frac{1}{2}ε_o E^2##.
 
gneill said:
What is the "everything else" that is u?

For an electric field the energy per unit volume (energy density) is given by ##\frac{1}{2}ε_o E^2##.
The u is simply the E=E0(x/x0) is what I did. So I had the integral of ∫ u dV = ∫ 1/2 ε0(E0/x0) dV = 1/2 ε0(E0/x0)2x2
 
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What happened to the x in the (x/x0) term? When you square it it should have become x2 inside the integral.
 
gneill said:
What happened to the x in the (x/x0) term? When you square it it should have become x2 inside the integral.
Yeah I miswrote and forgot to put it in. I edited my previous post which includes the x^2 variable.
 
No, the x2 is within the integral, so it should integrate to an x3 term in the result.
 
gneill said:
No, the x2 is within the integral, so it should integrate to an x3 term in the result.
Wait, where did the x^2 come from? I only have an x in the original integral. That should become x^2 not x^3.
 
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As I stated before, the energy density is ##\frac{1}{2}ε_o E^2##. Your E is given by ##E = E_o \left( \frac{x}{x_o} \right)##. You'll be integrating the energy density over the volume.

When you square E for your integral, the (x/xo) term gets squared too.
 
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gneill said:
As I stated before, the energy density is ##\frac{1}{2}ε_o E^2##. Your E is given by ##E = E_o \left( \frac{x}{x_o} \right)##. You'll be integrating the energy density over the volume.

When you square E for your integral, the (x/xo) term gets squared too.
OHHH, ok I didn't take that into account so does that mean you get the integral to be 1/6ε0E0(x3/x0) since everything, but the x is a constant can be pulled out prior to integration. Correct?
 
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The ##E_o## and ##x_o## should end up squared. They were part of the E that was squared inside the integral. Otherwise, that looks much better :smile:
 
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gneill said:
The ##E_o## and ##x_o## should end up squared. They were part of the E that was squared inside the integral. Otherwise, that looks much better :smile:
Yup, got the correct answer! Thanks for the help!
 
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