Total Magnetic Flux Density Law Problem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Total Magnetic Flux Density Law, specifically the use of the permeability of free space (μ_0) in equations relating to magnetic fields in materials. Participants explore the conditions under which μ_0 is necessary and its implications for understanding magnetic fields inside materials versus free space.

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  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the necessity of using μ_0 in the equation B = B_0 + μ_0*M, suggesting confusion about its application in non-free space materials.
  • Another participant asserts that the material may have a susceptibility different from that of a vacuum, implying that definitions of terms should clarify the use of μ_0.
  • A third participant explains that μ_0 is used to convert the SI units of magnetization (M) and magnetic field intensity (H) into the SI units of magnetic flux density (B), indicating that μ_0 is not meant to describe the material itself.
  • Further discussion acknowledges that the equations can lead to confusion, particularly in distinguishing between μ_0 and the material's permeability (μ).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of μ_0 in the equations, with some asserting its importance while others suggest that it may not always be required. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conditions under which μ_0 should be applied.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of magnetic susceptibility and permeability, as well as the specific conditions under which μ_0 is applicable versus the material's own permeability.

Saikat
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We know Total Magnetic Flux B = B_0 + B_m

Where, B_0 is the external field and B_m is the field inside a material.

Now, we get,

B = B_0 + μ_0*M (M is the magnetization)
My question is -

Do I always have to use μ_0 ? If yes then Why?

The material isn't free space, is it?& also

B = μ_0*(H + M) , where H is the Magnetic Field Intensity/Strength

Same problem here. Do I always have to use μ_0 here too? Why not only μ ??

The main problem is we know Magnetic Field inside a material is B_m = μ_0*M

Why we are using μ_0 here while the material isn't free space!?

This problem is the main reason of those 2 questions I asked before.

Please help..
 
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The answer to your question is "no". Sometimes the material has a susceptability different from that of a vacuum. The definitions of the terms should answer your questions for you.
 
Saikat said:
B = μ_0*(H + M) , where H is the Magnetic Field Intensity/Strength

Same problem here. Do I always have to use μ_0 here too? Why not only μ ??
This equation is the definition of H in SI units. The H field is defined as the quantity that makes that equation true.

In that equation we always use ##\mu_0##. The purpose of ##\mu_0## is simply to convert the SI units of M and H into the SI units of B. The purpose is not to describe the material, that is done by M.
 
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... ah, yes: a niggly feeling had been building over that one.
Dalespam is correct

You'll see:
##\vec B = \mu_0(\vec H+\vec M)##
##\vec B = \mu \vec H##
... which can lead to confusion.
 

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