Trajectory of a proton as it moves between the plates

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The discussion focuses on the trajectory of a proton moving between charged plates, exploring whether its motion is circular or parabolic. Participants clarify that the proton is repelled by the positive plate, leading to parabolic motion due to acceleration along the field lines. They distinguish between centripetal acceleration, which is associated with circular motion, and uniform acceleration, which applies here. The conversation also addresses the forces acting on the proton, including gravity and repulsion, noting that acceleration is zero until the proton enters the plate area. Ultimately, the trajectory is confirmed to be parabolic rather than circular.
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What makes the shape circular/ parabolic?
what determines the direction?

The Attempt at a Solution


Because the furthermost plate is positive, the proton would be repelled towards the screen, so i or iii. How do I know the shape?
 

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Cicicicici said:
How do I know the shape?
What kind of acceleration generates circular motion? What about parabolic motion? Which do you have here?
 
kuruman said:
What kind of acceleration generates circular motion? What about parabolic motion? Which do you have here?
Hi, is it because the proton is accelerating along the field lines not perpendicular to them? so it is a parabolic motion?
 
You provided a valid argument for parabolic motion. To answer with certainty, you need to provide an argument for excluding circular motion. What is that argument?
 
kuruman said:
You provided a valid argument for parabolic motion. To answer with certainty, you need to provide an argument for excluding circular motion. What is that argument?
ummmm... I'm not sure. Has it got something to do with the proton reaching terminal velocity before the plates?
 
Cicicicici said:
ummmm... I'm not sure. Has it got something to do with the proton reaching terminal velocity before the plates?
Nope. That's there to indicate that the vertical component of the velocity is constant. What kind of acceleration does an object in a circular path have? What's the difference between that kind of acceleration and the kind you have here?
 
kuruman said:
Nope. That's there to indicate that the vertical component of the velocity is constant. What kind of acceleration does an object in a circular path have? What's the difference between that kind of acceleration and the kind you have here?
Centripetal acceleration? And this one is just uniform?
 
Correct on both accounts. Centripetal acceleration changes direction to stay perpendicular to the velocity. Here the direction of the acceleration is fixed in space and is perpendicualr to the velocity instantaneously only when the proton enters the plate region.
 
kuruman said:
Correct on both accounts. Centripetal acceleration changes direction to stay perpendicular to the velocity. Here the direction of the acceleration is fixed in space and is perpendicualr to the velocity instantaneously only when the proton enters the plate region.
I am a bit confused - isn't the acceleration zero here? (because it is at terminal velocity?)
 
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How many different forces act on the proton?
 
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kuruman said:
How many different forces act on the proton?
gravity and repulsion from the positive plate?
 
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And some kind of air resistance otherwise the proton would not have reached terminal velocity before entering the plate area. The acceleration is zero before the proton enters the plate area. When it enters the plate area, the acceleration is no longer zero.
 
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kuruman said:
And some kind of air resistance otherwise the proton would not have reached terminal velocity before entering the plate area. The acceleration is zero before the proton enters the plate area. When it enters the plate area, the acceleration is no longer zero.
Ah! right. Thank you!
 
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