Trigonometric Identities algebra

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The discussion revolves around proving the trigonometric identity [Sinx/(1+Cosx)] + [(1+cosx) / sinx] = 2csc x. The user initially struggles with the algebra but eventually simplifies the expression to [2 + 2cosx] / [sinx + sinxcosx], leading to the correct solution of 2csc x after canceling terms. Additional questions arise regarding general solutions for trigonometric equations, with users clarifying the correct approaches and solutions. The conversation highlights the importance of using identities and careful algebraic manipulation in solving trigonometric problems.
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hello.

i have a question about trignometric identities.. it's realtivly easy, but am struggling with the algebra in it ( Algebra + trig = Very confusing to me )


Prove that ..

[Sinx/(1+Cosx)] + [(1+cosx) / sinx] = 2csc x



i manged to get it to [Sin2x+1+2cosx+cos2x] / SinxCosx

but i don't know what to do after that

any help would be appreciated, even if hints or steps without actually solving it for me .

Thank you
 
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Mspike6 said:
hello.

i have a question about trignometric identities.. it's realtivly easy, but am struggling with the algebra in it ( Algebra + trig = Very confusing to me )


Prove that ..

[Sinx/(1+Cosx)] + [(1+cosx) / sinx] = 2csc x



i manged to get it to [Sin2x+1+2cosx+cos2x] / SinxCosx

but i don't know what to do after that

any help would be appreciated, even if hints or steps without actually solving it for me .

Thank you

There's an identity involving sin2x and cos2x that might help get you a bit farther...
 
For the first term sinx/(1 + cosx), multiply everything by the conjugate of the denominator. It should be a lot simpler than what you tried doing. :smile:
 
Mspike6 said:
i manged to get it to [Sin2x+1+2cosx+cos2x] / SinxCosx
That should actually be \frac{sin^{2}x+1+2cosx+cos^{2}x}{sinx+sinxcosx}

Simplify and then factor.
 
Woohoo got it ! ..

Sin2x + cos2x will be 1

so ..

it will be [2 + 2cosx] / [sinx + sinxcosx]

Cosx cancels each other

==> 4/ 2sinx

==> 2/sinx

==> 2cscx

Thanks a lot for the help guys :D
 
I have anther question...

Find the general solutions for the following equations.

2 cos2 x -1 =0

Soultion.

Cos2x = 1/2
Cosx= - or + Sqrt 2 / 2

The general solution is pi /4 +2nPi, 3pi/4 +2nPi , 5Pi/4 + 2nPi and 7Pi/4 +2nPi , where n is an integer




But why can't i just take the Double angle of 2cos2x ?

which will be, cos2x=0

The general solution is Pi/2 +2nPi and 3Pi/2 +2nPi where n is an integer..



Btw, that was an example from my textbook...the first solution is what the textbook stated, and the second solution is what i thought right ..
 
Mspike6 said:
Woohoo got it ! ..

Sin2x + cos2x will be 1

so ..

it will be [2 + 2cosx] / [sinx + sinxcosx]

Cosx cancels each other

==> 4/ 2sinx

==> 2/sinx

==> 2cscx

Thanks a lot for the help guys :D

Mspike, don't make that mistake. The cosx don't divide out. Since you have already pretty much attained your answer, this is what should have happened:

\frac{2+2cosx}{sinx+sinxcosx}

=\frac{2(1+cosx)}{sinx(1+cosx)} The (1+cosx) in the numerator and denominator divide out.

=\frac{2}{sinx}

=2cscx
 
Anakin_k said:
Mspike, don't make that mistake. The cosx don't divide out. Since you have already pretty much attained your answer, this is what should have happened:

\frac{2+2cosx}{sinx+sinxcosx}

=\frac{2(1+cosx)}{sinx(1+cosx)} The (1+cosx) in the numerator and denominator divide out.

=\frac{2}{sinx}

=2cscx

Ahh!.
thanks for the heads up, and i thought i knew it :S
 
Mspike6 said:
I have anther question...

Find the general solutions for the following equations.

2 cos2 x -1 =0

Soultion.

Cos2x = 1/2
Cosx= - or + Sqrt 2 / 2

The general solution is pi /4 +2nPi, 3pi/4 +2nPi , 5Pi/4 + 2nPi and 7Pi/4 +2nPi , where n is an integer

But why can't i just take the Double angle of 2cos2x ?

which will be, cos2x=0

The general solution is Pi/2 +2nPi and 3Pi/2 +2nPi where n is an integer..
Btw, that was an example from my textbook...the first solution is what the textbook stated, and the second solution is what i thought right ..

In your solution, you did not even mention pi/4. The double angle is as follows:
2cos^{2}x-1=0
cos2x=0
2x=pi/2
x=pi/4

That is only one solution, and you are still missing it. Check where you went wrong.
 
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Am sorry for asking so many questions ,

how one should factor , tan2-sec-1=0

i think it will be something like, (x-1)(x2+1)

where x and x2 are trig
 
  • #11
Mspike6 said:
Am sorry for asking so many questions ,

how one should factor , tan2-sec-1=0

i think it will be something like, (x-1)(x2+1)

where x and x2 are trig

try using an identity involving tan2x and sec2x to replace the tan2x term.
 
  • #12
Solve Tan2x-secx-1=0

Soultion

(Sec2x-1)-secx-1=0

sec2-secx-2=0


(secx-2)(secx+1)=0


--------------
Secx -2 =0
secx=2
x= Pi/3 , 5Pi/3

-------------
Secx+1=0
Secx=-1
x= Pi


X= Pi/3 , 5Pi/3, Pi


Is that right? am i missing something ?

Thank you :D
 
  • #13
Mspike6 said:
Solve Tan2x-secx-1=0

Soultion

(Sec2x-1)-secx-1=0

sec2-secx-2=0


(secx-2)(secx+1)=0


--------------
Secx -2 =0
secx=2
x= Pi/3 , 5Pi/3

-------------
Secx+1=0
Secx=-1
x= Pi


X= Pi/3 , 5Pi/3, Pi


Is that right? am i missing something ?

Thank you :D

looks fine to me
 
  • #14
Mspike6 said:
Solve Tan2x-secx-1=0

Soultion

(Sec2x-1)-secx-1=0

sec2-secx-2=0


(secx-2)(secx+1)=0


--------------
Secx -2 =0
secx=2
x= Pi/3 , 5Pi/3

-------------
Secx+1=0
Secx=-1
x= Pi


X= Pi/3 , 5Pi/3, Pi


Is that right? am i missing something ?

Thank you :D

Yup, if the domain was [0,2pi], then it is correct.
 
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