Trigonometric Integral Problem

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The problem involves evaluating the definite integral of the function dx/(x^2+1) over the interval [tan(3), tan(6)]. Participants are exploring the implications of using trigonometric functions and their inverses in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the use of the arctangent function and its properties, particularly the relationship between arctan(tan(x)) and the range of x. There is also a focus on the implications of using degrees versus radians in calculations.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the potential issues with the original calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of arctan and the importance of specifying the units (degrees or radians) for the angles involved.

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There is confusion regarding the interpretation of the angles 3 and 6, with participants noting that tan(3) is greater than tan(6), which affects the sign of the integral's result. The problem's setup may not have clearly defined the units for the angles.

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Homework Statement



Evaluate the definite integral of function dx/x^2+1 on interval [tan(3), tan(6)]

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The trigonometric inverse function for dx/x^2+1 is arctanx+c.
I plugged in tan(3) and tan(6), and subtracted arctan(tan(3)) from arctan(tan(6)) and got the answer -.1415. But it's incorrect...

What am I doing wrong?
 
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arctan( tan(x)) = x

Use this.

Your calculator may be in radians or something.
 
I switched it to degrees and it worked. Wow. Thanks! What's wrong with radians?!
 
╔(σ_σ)╝ said:
arctan( tan(x)) = x

Use this.

Your calculator may be in radians or something.

Noo. The answer IS approximately -.1415. What's wrong is that arctan(tan(x))=x. That's only true if x is in (-pi/2,pi/2) which is the range of arctan. Otherwise arctan(tan(x)) will give you the number 'a' in (-pi/2,pi/2) such that tan(x)=tan(a). It will differ from x by a multiple of pi. -.1415 may be coming up wrong because it's not the exact answer. You can find an exact answer. Your 'interval' is also a little funny. tan(3)>tan(6). That's why your answer is negative.
 
Ahlahn said:
I switched it to degrees and it worked. Wow. Thanks! What's wrong with radians?!

Ok. I was diagnosing the wrong problem. There is nothing wrong with radians. The only problem is 3 radians isn't equal to 3 degrees. The problem should have specified that 3 meant degrees.
 
Dick said:
Noo. The answer IS approximately -.1415. What's wrong is that arctan(tan(x))=x. That's only true if x is in (-pi/2,pi/2) which is the range of arctan. Otherwise arctan(tan(x)) will give you the number 'a' in (-pi/2,pi/2) such that tan(x)=tan(a). It will differ from x by a multiple of pi. -.1415 may be coming up wrong because it's not the exact answer. You can find an exact answer. Your 'interval' is also a little funny. tan(3)>tan(6). That's why your answer is negative.

Mistake of mine :-(. I gave a hurried answer without checking.
 
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