Triple Integral To Find Volume Between Cylinder And Sphere

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The discussion focuses on calculating the volume between a cylinder and a sphere using triple integrals in different coordinate systems. The user presents integrals in rectangular and spherical coordinates but struggles with the cylindrical coordinate setup, particularly determining the correct bounds for ρ. It is clarified that the outer ρ bound should be six, derived from the maximum distance from the z-axis to the sphere's boundary. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationship between coordinates and the symmetry of the problem to simplify calculations. Properly setting the bounds in cylindrical coordinates is crucial for resolving the integral accurately.
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Homework Statement
Express in rectangular, spherical and cylindrical coordinates a triple integral returning the volume of a sphere $$x^2+y^2+z^2=36$$ that is outside a cylinder $$x^2+y^2=9$$.
Relevant Equations
I use the physics convention here with spherical $$(r,\theta,\phi)$$ and cylindrical $$(\rho,\phi,z)$$. In cylindrical coordinates, $$\rho^2=x^2+y^2$$.
I got the two relations for spherical and rectangular coordinates. In rectangular:
$$\int_{-6}^{6}\int_{-\sqrt{36-x^{2}}}^{\sqrt{36-x^{2}}}\int_{-\sqrt{36-x^{2}-y^{2}}}^{\sqrt{36-x^2-y^2}}\text{d}z\text{d}y\text{d}x-\int_{-3}^{3}\int_{-\sqrt{9-x^{2}}}^{\sqrt{9-x^{2}}}\int_{-\sqrt{36-x^{2}-y^{2}}}^{\sqrt{36-x^2-y^2}}\text{d}z\text{d}y\text{d}x$$
In spherical:
$$\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{\frac{\pi}{6}}^{\frac{5\pi}{6}}\int_{3\csc(\theta)}^{6}r^{2}\sin(\theta)\text{d}r\text{d}\theta\text{d}\phi$$
I'm having trouble with cylindrical. The φ bounds are $$0\leq\phi\leq2\pi$$. The z bounds are already given in the rectangular system and can be converted to ρ by the relation given in relevant equations. The inner ρ bound is 3 because the cylinder is a distance 3 away from the z-axis. We have:
$$\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{3}^{?}\int_{-\sqrt{36-\rho^2}}^{\sqrt{36-\rho^2}}\rho\text{d}z\text{d}\rho\text{d}\phi$$
The proper solution is for the outer ρ bound to be six (the integrals resolve to the same number). I see this as coming from the maximum possible distance between the z-axis and the bound of the sphere (specifically when z=0)$. What I don't get is that since the outer boundary is the sphere, shouldn't the outer bound be written as $$\rho^{2}+z^{2}=36$$
And then solve for ρ? This must be wrong because this wouldn't allow the integral to be resolved to a number, but I can' see where I went wrong conceptually.

Thanks in advance!
 
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I don't think you're using cylindrical coordinates correctly. They are the 3-dimensional counterpart of polar coordinates, with the coordinates being ##z, r,## and ##\theta##. The latter is the angle formed by rays in the x-y plane, while ##\phi## is the angle relative to the z-axis.

Also, it might be simpler to exploit the symmetry of your problem. Everything is symmetric about the z-axis, so you could integrate from 0 to ##\frac \pi 2## and multiply that result by 4.
 
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Homework Statement: Express in rectangular, spherical and cylindrical coordinates a triple integral returning the volume of a sphere $$x^2+y^2+z^2=36$$ that is outside a cylinder $$x^2+y^2=9$$.
Relevant Equations: I use the physics convention here with spherical $$(r,\theta,\phi)$$ and cylindrical $$(\rho,\phi,z)$$. In cylindrical coordinates, $$\rho^2=x^2+y^2$$.

What I don't get is that since the outer boundary is the sphere, shouldn't the outer bound be written as ρ2+z2=36
And then solve for ρ? This must be wrong because this wouldn't allow the integral to be resolved to a number, but I can' see where I went wrong conceptually.
You are already using that relationship for z. Now you need to find the maximal value of ##\rho## regardless of the value of z. I must say I am surprised that it causes you issues as it is completely analogous to what you did in the case of Cartesian coordinates when you found the bounds for x.
 
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