Trouble With Understanding Implicit Differentiation

[nicksbyman]

I don't think I fully understand implicit differentiation. I have read my textbook and watched many videos, and I think I will get an A on my test on this solely by memorizing the rules, but I would really like to understand this topic. From what I know, you are supposed to use implicit differentiation when the variable of the thing you are taking the derivative of disagrees with the denominator of d/dx and when they agree use explicit differentiation. I understand that there is a problem with taking the derivative of an expression when the variables disagree, but I don't understand why you can use the chain rule when the variables disagree but you cannot use the simple power rule (i.e. d/dx [yˆ2] = 2y(dy/dx) ≠ 2y). It seems arbitrary; why are you allowed to use the chain rule and not the simple power rule?

Thanks

 

[lanedance]

the difference is you are differentiating y = y(x), a function of x, with respect to x, so you keep the dy/dx term

if you were differentiating with respect to y then the power law applies
\frac{d}{dy}y^2 = 2y

 

[lanedance]

and in fact you are using both the chain rule and the power rule

 

[nicksbyman]

^I know, but why? Why do you only use the chain rule when the variables disagree?

 

[QuarkCharmer]

^I know, but why? Why do you only use the chain rule when the variables disagree?

I think you actually use the chain rule when the variable agrees. It's just that the derivative of the inside of say X^3 is 1, (that is, the derivative with respect to x of x). So you have something like this:
\frac{d}{dx}x^{3}=3x^{2}(\frac{d}{dx}x)
The latter part is just one, so we don't have to write it.

Think of it like a composition:
f(x) = x^{3}
g(x) = x
(f \circ g)(x) = f(g(x)) = (x)^3

 

[lanedance]

yeah so just to add to quarkcharmers post

consider the function f(x) = x

then consider g(f) = f^2

taking teh composition of functions we have
g(f(x)) = (f(x))^2 = x^2

when we differntiate w.r.t. x
\frac{d}{dx}g(f(x)) = \frac{dg(f(x))}{dx}g(f(x))\frac{df(x)}{dx} = g'(f(x))f'(x) = 2f(x).1 = 2x

so the key part isfor f(x) = x
\frac{df(x)}{dx} = f'(x) = \frac{d(x)}{dx} = 1