Trying to find dy/dx of a trig function # 2

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative dy/dx of the equation x + tan(xy) = 0. Participants are clarifying the proper interpretation of the equation and the differentiation process involved with respect to the variables.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to differentiate the equation but are questioning the placement of parentheses in the original statement. There is confusion regarding whether y is inside or outside the tangent function. Some participants are also discussing the correct notation for differentiation and the implications of differentiating with respect to x versus y.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's approaches. Some have pointed out potential errors in notation and interpretation, while others are trying to clarify the differentiation process. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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Participants are navigating issues related to the clarity of the problem statement and the rules of differentiation, which may affect their ability to proceed effectively. The original equation lacks parentheses, leading to ambiguity in interpretation.

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Homework Statement


find dy/dx


Homework Equations


x+tanxy=0


The Attempt at a Solution


d/dy(x+tanxy)

x+sec^2(xy)((1)(dy/dx))+(1)(tanxy)=0
dy/dx(sec^2(xy)+x+tanxy=0
-x-tanxy -x-tanxy
dy/dx(sec^2(xy)/(sec^2(xy)=(-x-tanxy)/(sec^2(xy))

dy/dx=(-x-tanxy)/(sec^2xy)
 
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jtt said:

Homework Statement


find dy/dx


Homework Equations


x+tanxy=0

You can begin by stating the problem unambiguously. Are you trying to differentiate

x + tan(xy) = 0 or x + ytan(x)=0. The point is that as it is written we can't tell whether the y is inside or outside that tangent function. Parentheses are necessary!

The Attempt at a Solution


d/dy(x+tanxy)

Why are you writing d/dy when you are differentiating with respect to x?
 
trying to differentiate x+tan(xy)

i got dy/dx when i took the derivative of y in tan(xy)
 
jtt said:

Homework Statement


find dy/dx


Homework Equations


x+tanxy=0


The Attempt at a Solution


d/dy(x+tanxy)

You mean d/dx(x + tan(xy))

x+sec^2(xy)((1)(dy/dx))+(1)(tanxy)=0
Is the derivative of x equal to x??

And what I highlighted in red should be the derivative of the (xy) which is the argument of the tangent function, or the "inside". There should be no tan(xy) in that.
 

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