Tube End Forming - Rectangular to Circular

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Manufacturing a transition tube from a 4"x1" rectangular section to a 3" OD circular section in stainless steel (304) poses challenges, particularly with spring back and potential material fracture during cold forming. Experts suggest that welded sheet metal fabrication is a more viable approach, as it avoids issues of splitting and retains structural integrity. Using tools like Solidworks can simplify the design process for creating flat patterns for cutting. The need for precise corner cuts before forming and subsequent welding to achieve the desired curvature is emphasized. Overall, this type of transition piece is commonly handled in standard sheet metal fabrication shops.
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Hi,

I wish to manufacture a transition tube from 4"x1" rectangular section to 3" OD circular section. The height of the part is 3" and is supposed be around 2 mm (.082") thick. Currently I am planning to manufacture this in a hydraulic press using (custom made ) end forming tools. The forming will be done in 3 or 2 stages starting from rect. and gradually forming a circular section. Has anyone tried this before? Is there any alternative way to make this. I am looking to make 6 such parts. I have no idea of the spring back, so can anyone help me with that. Also can anyone suggest me some literature/ handbook to help me in the process,
Material - Stainless Steel (304)

Thanks in advance
 
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Not really my field but perhaps it would be possible to make it from welded sheet metal? As you would a cone/funnel. Try making a paper template?

Edit: Actually I think this would be difficult.
 
Or perhaps print one using a 3D printer and cast copies in aluminium?
 
CWatters said:
Not really my field but perhaps it would be possible to make it from welded sheet metal? As you would a cone/funnel. Try making a paper template?

Edit: Actually I think this would be difficult.
CWatters said:
Or perhaps print one using a 3D printer and cast copies in aluminium?
I forgot to mention material, its Stainless steel
 
If you try to do this by simple cold forming then :

(a) the square tube will almost certainly split before the round shape is fully developed .

(b) the round section will always retain a component of 'squareness' that you will not be able to get rid of .

There are forming processes that would work but these would require sophisticated engineering facilities .

@CWatters has the right idea . Make the transition piece as a welded fabrication . This type of work is routinely done in ordinary sheet metal fabrication shops .

Working out the shapes of the individual parts for the fabrication is not particularly difficult .
 
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Nidum said:
@CWatters has the right idea . Make the transition piece as a welded fabrication . This type of work is routinely done in ordinary sheet metal fabrication shops .
For sure. Solidworks flatten feature makes turning most 3d surfaces into 2d shapes for profile cutting easy. The press brake operator does the hard part.
 
Nidum said:
If you try to do this by simple cold forming then :

(a) the square tube will almost certainly split before the round shape is fully developed .

(b) the round section will always retain a component of 'squareness' that you will not be able to get rid of .

There are forming processes that would work but these would require sophisticated engineering facilities .

@CWatters has the right idea . Make the transition piece as a welded fabrication . This type of work is routinely done in ordinary sheet metal fabrication shops .

Working out the shapes of the individual parts for the fabrication is not particularly difficult .
Thank you
 
As explained earlier, any attempt to open the right angle corners to a 1.5” radius by bending will fracture the material.

If you start with a rectangular section then, to prevent the fractures, you will need to cut along the tube corners prior to forming the circular section. After forming you will need to weld up the previous cuts with the new surface curvature and alignment.
 
What is the pressure and use of the part you need. A piece like this is a moderately easy standard layout from the sheet metal world. It would be easy to layout a pattern copy six times and fold them up. A little skill on a TiG welder could even make water or air tight parts.
 
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