Two Channel Microphone: Right & Left Channels Explained

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The discussion revolves around the functionality and implications of using a two-channel microphone, specifically addressing the separation of right and left audio channels before applying a Fast Fourier Transform (FFT). Participants explore the types of two-channel microphones and their signal organization, as well as the technical aspects of digital audio processing.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the meaning of a two-channel microphone and whether the right and left channels need to be separated prior to FFT processing.
  • One participant mentions that two-channel microphones are often referred to as stereo microphones and describes two systems of signal organization: XY and MS (mid-side).
  • In the MS system, the left and right signals are organized differently, allowing for control over the stereo image width by adjusting the gain on the side channel.
  • Another participant suggests that it is possible to combine the right and left channels in various ways before performing an FFT, but cautions against taking digital samples alternately from the two channels.
  • There is a question raised about how to determine if a microphone uses the MS or XY system, alongside a mention of PCM (Pulse Code Modulation) encoding.
  • One participant explains that a digital microphone outputs PCM as two data streams, which are processed with a decimation filter to convert them into multi-bit digital samples.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of separating channels before FFT processing, and there is no consensus on how to identify the microphone system used (MS vs. XY). The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these differences.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include a lack of clarity on specific microphone models and their configurations, as well as the technical details surrounding PCM encoding and its implications for audio processing.

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if you have a two Channel Microphone, what does that mean ?
do you have to separate the right and left channels before you send it to a FFT?
if so why?
 
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btb4198 said:
if you have a two Channel Microphone, what does that mean ?
do you have to separate the right and left channels before you send it to a FFT?
if so why?

I did a google search on your phrase Two Channel Microphone, and all I saw was 2-channel microphone preamps. Do you have a model number or link to your microphone?
 
berkeman said:
I did a google search on your phrase Two Channel Microphone, and all I saw was 2-channel microphone preamps.

They are usually called stereo microphones, e.g. http://www.thomann.de.gb/stereo_microphones.html

There are two different ways the signals are organized. the "XY" system has the left and right signals on separate channels. The "MS" (mid and side) system has left+right on one channel, and left-right on the other. This is useful because you can control the "width" of the stereo image by changing the gain on the "side" channel.

Note, in the MS system the "side" channel is physically a velocity sensitive (not pressure sensitive) transducer, which responds to the pressure difference across the two sides of the transducer.

I suspect this is a continuation of the OP's earlier problems, in which case the answer to
do you have to separate the right and left channels before you send it to a FFT?
is, you can combine the R and L channels any way you like, or not combine them at all, before you do an FFT, but what you can't usefully do is take digital samples alternately from the two channels.
 
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How do I know if it is a MS system or a XY
I know it is a Pcm Encoding
but I do not know what that means
 
I'm going to assume You have a digital microphone. You give it a clock and it outputs PCM (Pulse Code Modulation). It is basically a 1 bit sigma-delta modulated datastream. Well, actually it is two datastreams. Generally one is valid on the clock rising edge and the other is valid on the clock falling edge.

You process each PCM stream with a decimation filter to turn it into multi-bit digital samples. What do you want to interface it to?

If you have an FPGA then the decimation filter is pretty simple.

Here is a nice tutorial. Also has a great picture of Sigma Delta 1 bit output for a sine wave.
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/documents/uploads/misc/en/WAN0263_1.pdf
 
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