Two parallel wires in plane. determine B field as f(x)

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The discussion revolves around determining the magnetic field (B) along the x-axis between two parallel wires carrying currents. The wires are positioned a distance d apart, with one at x=0 and the other at x=d. The problem also involves a variation where one wire carries double the current in the opposite direction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express understanding of the physics involved but seek clarity on deriving the magnetic field formula as a function of the variable x. There are discussions about using Ampere's Law and vector addition to approach the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the relationship between the distance x and the magnetic field, questioning how to express the variable r in the context of the magnetic field equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of expressions for the magnetic field from individual wires and how to combine them.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted concern about the behavior of the magnetic field at varying distances, particularly as r approaches zero, which introduces complications. Participants are also considering the implications of the currents' directions on the resultant magnetic field.

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Homework Statement



Let two long parallel wires, a distance d apart, carry equal currents I in the same direction. One wire is a x=0 and the other is a x=d. Determine B along the x-axis between the wires as a function of X.

Repeat problem if wire at x=0 is 2I and in the opposed direction.



Homework Equations



Answer key = u/2pi * I [(d-2x)/(x(d-x))]



The Attempt at a Solution



I understand the physics, but I am unsure how to arrive at that final answer. I do not understand determining the point along the x-axis with those variables. Can someone please help me with the deriving?
 
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cleverfield said:

Homework Statement



Let two long parallel wires, a distance d apart, carry equal currents I in the same direction. One wire is a x=0 and the other is a x=d. Determine B along the x-axis between the wires as a function of X.

Repeat problem if wire at x=0 is 2I and in the opposed direction.



Homework Equations



Answer key = u/2pi * I [(d-2x)/(x(d-x))]



The Attempt at a Solution



I understand the physics, but I am unsure how to arrive at that final answer. I do not understand determining the point along the x-axis with those variables. Can someone please help me with the deriving?

Start with Ampere's Law, and do the vector addition. You are familiar with Ampere's Law and the Right-Hand Rule, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampère's_law

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thanks for the reply. I know Amperes and vector, and maybe I'm not thinking this through properly. I know the direction of the magnetic fields. But how do you come up with a formula that is based on a variable "x" that could be any distance between the two currents?
 
cleverfield said:
thanks for the reply. I know Amperes and vector, and maybe I'm not thinking this through properly. I know the direction of the magnetic fields. But how do you come up with a formula that is based on a variable "x" that could be any distance between the two currents?

Write the expression for the B-field for a single wire, as a function of the distance away from the wire (and with a vector direction from the RH Rule). Then stick the 2nd wire in there, and combine the two equations. With 2 wires and the currents going the same way, is the B-field halfway between them zero or twice what each wire makes on its own?
 
I know the expression is B=u/2pi * I/r ----- It is r that I have the problem with. How do you know r when it can vary from between 0 and d. where d is the max.
 
cleverfield said:
I know the expression is B=u/2pi * I/r ----- It is r that I have the problem with. How do you know r when it can vary from between 0 and d. where d is the max.

Exclude r=0 because of the infinity it introduces. For all r>0, the solution is straightforward, no?
 
Unfortunately no.

For the equation with just one wire i have:

B=u/2pi*I/xfor the second wire it would be

B=u/2pi*I/d-xEven if this is right, I am not sure where to go next.
 

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