LaTeX Typesetting Multiple Overlapping Braces in LaTeX

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The discussion focuses on typesetting multiple overlapping braces in LaTeX, specifically how to achieve this with underbraces for expressions like "a + b + c + d = e." Users explore various methods, including the use of the `\makebox` command to create zero-width boxes that allow for overlapping braces without displaying duplicate content. The importance of using the `\phantom` command to hide unnecessary duplicates is highlighted, along with the need for proper placement of dollar signs for math mode. The conversation also touches on the nuances of text versus math mode in LaTeX, ensuring clarity in formatting complex expressions. Overall, the thread provides practical solutions for achieving the desired typesetting effect.
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I'd like to typeset an expression like,

a + b + c + d = e

The problem is I'd like to use multiple underbraces (or perhaps overbraces) which may also overlap. For example,

\underbrace{a + b}_\textrm{brace 1} + c + d = e

is the first brace. But I'd also like to have a second brace which underlines b, c, and d (and lies below the first brace).

How would I do that?
 
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\underbrace{\underbrace{a + b}_\textrm{brace 1} + c + d}_\textrm{brace 2}= e
 
CRGreathouse said:
\underbrace{\underbrace{a + b}_\textrm{brace 1} + c + d}_\textrm{brace 2}= e

I originally did that (but then deleted it). He is asking for the brace to start under b and end at d.
 
Hi rsq_a,


rsq_a said:
I'd like to typeset an expression like,

a + b + c + d = e

The problem is I'd like to use multiple underbraces (or perhaps overbraces) which may also overlap. For example,

\underbrace{a + b}_\textrm{brace 1} + c + d = e

is the first brace. But I'd also like to have a second brace which underlines b, c, and d (and lies below the first brace).

How would I do that?

How about these:

<br /> a + \underbrace{b \makebox[0pt][r]{$\displaystyle{\underbrace{\phantom{a+b}}_\textrm{brace 1}}$}<br /> + c + d}_\textrm{brace 2} = e<br />




<br /> \underbrace{a + \makebox[0pt][l]{$\displaystyle{\underbrace{\phantom{b+c+d}}_\textrm{ brace 2}}$} b}_\textrm{brace 1} + c + d = e<br />




<br /> \underbrace{a + \makebox[0pt][l]{$\displaystyle{\overbrace{\phantom{b+c+d}}^\textrm{ brace 2}}$} b}_\textrm{brace 1} + c + d = e<br />


You can say that the makebox command here is causing the inner brace to have a width of zero, for the purpose of calculating the outer brace. Let me show you the steps:

Let's say you start with this bit of Latex code:

{\rm neutrons} + {\rm protons} + {\rm electrons}

which if you Latex it gives the output:

<br /> {\rm neutrons} + {\rm protons} + {\rm electrons}<br />

Now put in the first underbrace:

{\rm neutrons} + \underbrace{ {\rm protons} + {\rm electrons} }_{\rm charged}

output:

<br /> {\rm neutrons} + \underbrace{ {\rm protons} + {\rm electrons} }_{\rm charged}<br />


So that's good. Now create a zero width box at the point where one end of the second underbrace goes, like this (with the new stuff in bold):

{\rm neutrons} + \underbrace{ {\rm protons}
\makebox[0pt][r]{$\underbrace{ {\rm neutrons} + {\rm protons} }_{\rm nucleons} }+ {\rm electrons} }_{\rm charged}

output:

<br /> {\rm neutrons} + \underbrace{ {\rm protons} <br /> \makebox[0pt][r]{$\underbrace{ {\rm neutrons} + {\rm protons} }_{\rm nucleons} }<br /> + {\rm electrons} }_{\rm charged}<br />



I noticed that this last version looks fine on the forum, but what's really happening is that there are two copies of {\rm neutrons} + {\rm protons}; they are just right on top of each other. Sometimes they won't line up perfectly, so to make sure that you never see the duplicate contents, you can use the phantom command:

{\rm neutrons} + \underbrace{ {\rm protons}
\makebox[0pt][r]{$\underbrace{ \phantom{ {\rm neutrons} + {\rm protons} } }_{\rm nucleons} }+ {\rm electrons} }_{\rm charged}

output:

<br /> {\rm neutrons} + \underbrace{ {\rm protons} <br /> \makebox[0pt][r]{$\underbrace{ \phantom{ {\rm neutrons} + {\rm protons}} }_{\rm nucleons} }<br /> + {\rm electrons} }_{\rm charged}<br />


Depending on what is in your equation, you might also want to use the displaystyle command right after the $ in the makebox (like I have in my first several examples). Also in my own work I have sometimes had to explicitly add a space or two to make everything line up correctly.
 
I forgot to thank you for this (have yet to return to writing). I also spotted this in a Wikipedia article -- not as easy as your technique (and not the kind of braces I wanted), but it'd be nice to keep the info for future reference:

<br /> \overbrace{\rho \Big(<br /> \underbrace{\frac{\partial \mathbf{v}}{\partial t}}_{<br /> \begin{smallmatrix}<br /> \text{Unsteady}\\<br /> \text{acceleration}<br /> \end{smallmatrix}} + <br /> \underbrace{\mathbf{v} \cdot \nabla \mathbf{v}}_{<br /> \begin{smallmatrix}<br /> \text{Convective} \\<br /> \text{acceleration}<br /> \end{smallmatrix}}\Big)}^{\text{Inertia}} =<br /> \underbrace{-\nabla p}_{<br /> \begin{smallmatrix}<br /> \text{Pressure} \\<br /> \text{gradient}<br /> \end{smallmatrix}} + <br /> \underbrace{\mu \nabla^2 \mathbf{v}}_{\text{Viscosity}} + <br /> \underbrace{\mathbf{f}}_{<br /> \begin{smallmatrix}<br /> \text{Other} \\<br /> \text{forces}<br /> \end{smallmatrix}}<br />
 
Can somebody tell me that in previous examples what does the $ sign do before the \underbrace tag? At first I thought it's a typo.
 
And I get the following error message for
$$
{\rm neutrons} + \underbrace{ {\rm protons}
\makebox[0pt][r]{$\underbrace{ {\rm neutrons} + {\rm protons} }_{\rm nucleons} }+ {\rm electrons} }_{\rm charged}
$$! Missing $ inserted.
<inserted text>
$
l.14 + {\rm electrons} }
_{\rm charged}
?
 
Of course I was using my local LaTex installation.
 
Hi zslevi,

zslevi said:
And I get the following error message for
$$
{\rm neutrons} + \underbrace{ {\rm protons}
\makebox[0pt][r]{$\underbrace{ {\rm neutrons} + {\rm protons} }_{\rm nucleons} }+ {\rm electrons} }_{\rm charged}
$$


! Missing $ inserted.
<inserted text>
$
l.14 + {\rm electrons} }
_{\rm charged}
?

There is a typo in my post; I left out a $ that was needed. (If you look at the first three examples at the beginning of my post you'll see matching single dollar signs the way they should be.) It seems that the LaTeX engine here is lenient and allowed my mistake to go through.

If you use this for your example:

$$
{\rm neutrons} + \underbrace{ {\rm protons}
\makebox[0pt][r]{$\underbrace{ {\rm neutrons} + {\rm protons} }_{\rm nucleons} $}+ {\rm electrons} }_{\rm charged}
$$

I believe it will work fine.
 
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Now it works fine, thanks.
However I still don't get what those single dollar signs are doing: are you nesting equation environments, or what?
 
  • #11
zslevi said:
Now it works fine, thanks.
However I still don't get what those single dollar signs are doing: are you nesting equation environments, or what?

My understanding is that the makebox argument is in text mode; for example if you look at this:

$$ xyz\makebox{abc}mno$$

you can see abc is treated as normal text, not equation symbols. But I wanted my box to contain equation components, so I had to get in (inline) equation mode and used the dollar signs (just like you would if you wanted math inside a paragraph of text).
 
  • #12
Thanks for the explanation.
 

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