U(1), SU(2), SU(3) are symmetry of what?

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The Standard Model symmetries are U(1), SU(2), and SU(3). But I'm not sure whether these are symmetries of the Action intgral or if they are symmetries of the background spacetime.
 
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They are symmetries of the action, or equivalently, the Lagrangian. They are not symmetries of spacetime.
 
Fredrik said:
They are symmetries of the action, or equivalently, the Lagrangian. They are not symmetries of spacetime.

Are these symmetries expected to survive in GR as well as in SR?
 
Yes, they are gauge symmetries that have nothing to do with the underlying spacetime.
 
Ben Niehoff said:
Yes, they are gauge symmetries that have nothing to do with the underlying spacetime.

So is there a diffeomorphic invariant version of the path integral for particle physics that uses the U(1), SU(2), and SU(3) symmetry groups?
 
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So is there a diffeomorphic invariant version of the path integral for particle physics that uses the U(1), SU(2), and SU(3) symmetry groups?

The Lagrangian is exactly the same; just replace \eta_{\mu\nu} with g_{\mu\nu}.
 
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