Unable to prove e without math. induction

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The discussion centers on proving the limit lim_{n -> ∞} (1 + 1/n)^{n} = ∑_{k=0}^{∞} (1/k!) without using mathematical induction. Participants explore the binomial expansion of (1 + 1/n)^{n} and analyze the convergence of individual terms as n approaches infinity. They conclude that each term in the expansion converges to 1/k!, leading to the series summing to e. A rigorous proof using L'Hôpital's Rule is also presented, confirming that the limit indeed equals e, aligning with the Taylor series expansion of e^x. The conversation emphasizes understanding the relationship between the two sides of the equation.
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Homework Statement


How can you prove the following statement without mathematical induction?
lim_{n -> \infty} (1 + \frac {1} {n})^{n} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac {1} { n! }

The Attempt at a Solution



The statement can be proven by mathematical induction, but I am interested in how the sum statement can be deduced.
 
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I'd be interested in how you prove that with induction. But try expanding (1+1/n)^n in a binomial expansion and look at the limit of the individual terms.
 
Dick said:
But try expanding (1+1/n)^n in a binomial expansion and look at the limit of the individual terms.

Let's consider only the first three and the last three terms in the binomial expansion
1 + (n,1) \frac {1} {n} + (n,2) \frac {1} {n^{2}} + (n,3) \frac {1}<br /> {n^{3}} + ... + (n, n-3) \frac {1} {n^{n-3}} + (n, n-2) \frac {1} {n^{n-2}} +<br /> (n, n-1) \frac {1} {n^{n-1}} + \frac {1} {n^{n}}

where (n,n) is a combination, for instance.
(n,0) and (n,n) are one.

Perhaps, I should now factorise by \frac {1} {n}.
 
Look at a single term, e.g. (n,3)/n^3. Expand (n,3) in factorials. Cancel some terms in the numerator and denominator. Can you see what happens?
 
Dick said:
Look at a single term, e.g. (n,3)/n^3. Expand (n,3) in factorials. Cancel some terms in the numerator and denominator. Can you see what happens?

1 + n (\frac {1}{n})^{1}) + n(n - 1) \frac {1}{2!} (\frac {1}{n})^{2}) + n(n - 1)(n - 2) \frac {1}{3!} (\frac {1}{n})^{3}) +<br /> ... + n(n - 1)(n - 2) \frac {1}{3!} (\frac {1}{n})^{n-3}) + n(n - 1) \frac {1}{2!} (\frac {1}{n})^{n-2}) + n (\frac {1}{n})^{n-1}) + \frac {1} {n^{n}}

Simplifying
2(1 + 1 + \frac {n - 1}{n} \frac {1}{2!} + (n - 1)(n - 2) \frac {1}{n^{2}*3!} +<br /> ... ) + \frac {1} {n^{n}}

The series diverges, since n is a positive integer.

We should somehow be able to get the sum notation.
 
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You are forgetting the 1/n^k part. For the term containing 3! I get
(n)(n-1)(n-2)/(n^3*3!). What's the limit of that as n->infinity?
 
Dick said:
You are forgetting the 1/n^k part. For the term containing 3! I get
(n)(n-1)(n-2)/(n^3*3!). What's the limit of that as n->infinity?

I get
\frac {1 - 3/n - 2/n^2} {3!} =&gt; 1/3!,
as n goes to infinity.

We should now apply the result for the rest of the terms.
 
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n/n->1. (n-1)/n->1. (n-2)/n->1. As n->infinity. I get that the limit is 1/3!. Your limit also goes to 1/3!. In spite of a sign error.
 
Dick said:
n/n->1. (n-1)/n->1. (n-2)/n->1. As n->infinity. I get that the limit is 1/3!. Your limit also goes to 1/3!. In spite of a sign error.

I agree with you.

I tried to prove the statement unsuccessfully by the proof of contradiction.
Nevertheless, if we can show that for n = 4 that the sum is 1/4!, we can apparently use mathematical induction to prove the statement.

I do not see any other way to prove the statement.
 
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The sum isn't 1/3!. A single term converges to 1/3!. You may be confused because the n on the right side of the equation has nothing to do with the n on the left. Try proving lim n->infinity (1+1/n)^n=sum k=0 to infinity 1/k!.
 
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Dick said:
The sum isn't 1/3!. A single term converges to 1/3!. You may be confused because the n on the right side of the equation has nothing to do with the n on the
left.

Thank you for the clarification!
I had an idea that there is a relation between n's at both sides.

Dick said:
Try proving lim n->infinity (1+1/n)^n=sum k=0 to infinity 1/k!.

The binomial expansion is finally
2 + \frac{n-1}{n*2!} + ... + \frac {1}{n^n}(\frac {n^3(n-1)} {2!} + n^2 + 1)

We know that each of the coefficients such as n/n -> 1, (n-1)/n -> 1 and (n-2)/n -> 1, as n goes to infinity.
In contrast, the other end of the sequence converges to zero.
1/n^n -> 0, n^(2-n) -> 0, and n^(3-n)(n-1)/2! -> 0,
as n goes to infinity.

We get the following sequence
1 + 1 + 1/2! + 1/3! + ...

Each term in the sequence is in line with the LHS of the equation.
This completes the proof.

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Is the proof correct?
 
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Sorry for entering without permition, for i will not be that helpful either. But, without directly using induction, then it can be shown that:

\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty}\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^n=e


And also, from the expansion of f(x)=e^x using Taylor series around zero, and also letting x=1, we get


e=1+\frac{1}{1!}+\frac{1}{2!}+...=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!}

so from these two results we have that they are equal.
 
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soopo said:
Thank you for the clarification!
I had an idea that there is a relation between n's at both sides.



The binomial expansion is finally
2 + \frac{n-1}{n*2!} + ... + \frac {1}{n^n}(\frac {n^3(n-1)} {2!} + n^2 + 1)

We know that each of the coefficients such as n/n -> 1, (n-1)/n -> 1 and (n-2)/n -> 1, as n goes to infinity.
In contrast, the other end of the sequence converges to zero.
1/n^n -> 0, n^(2-n) -> 0, and n^(3-n)(n-1)/2! -> 0,
as n goes to infinity.

We get the following sequence
1 + 1 + 1/2! + 1/3! + ...

Each term in the sequence is in line with the LHS of the equation.
This completes the proof.

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Is the proof correct?

I think so. Each term in binomial expansion (n,k)*(1/n)^k converges to 1/k!. So it's plausible that the sum converges to the sum of 1/k! which is e. It's not horribly rigourous, but I've guessing that's what you are supposed to come up with.
 
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sutupidmath said:
Sorry for entering without permition, for i will not be that helpful either. But, without directly using induction, then it can be shown that:

\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty}\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^n=e


And also, from the expansion of f(x)=e^x using Taylor series around zero, and also letting x=1, we get


e=1+\frac{1}{1!}+\frac{1}{2!}+...=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!}

so from these two results we have that they are equal.

All true. But I think this 'proof' maybe supposed to bypass the knowledge that lim n->infinity (1+1/n)^n=e.
 
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Dick said:
I think so. Each term in binomial expansion (n,k)*(1/n)^k converges to 1/k!. So it's plausible that the sum converges to the sum of 1/k! which is e. It's not horribly rigourous, but I've guessing that's what you are supposed to come up with.

How would you do the proof more rigorous?
 
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soopo said:
How would you do the proof more rigorous?

You'd have to come with with some kind of error estimate for the sum of all of the parts that still contain n. But I wouldn't bother, because as stupidmath said, you know the limit is e and you know that the sum of 1/k! is also a convergent series summing to e from the Taylor series expansion of e^x.
 
  • #17
soopo said:
How would you do the proof more rigorous?

Here is your rigorous proof. Using L'Hôpital's Rule,

Let y = lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^{n}

Take the natural logarithm of both sides of this equation.

ln(y) = ln\left[lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^{n}\right]

= lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\left[ln\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^{n}\right]

= lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\left[nln\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)\right]

= lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\left[\frac{ln \left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)}{\frac{1}{n}}\right]

If we try to solve the above limit using direct substitution, we'll obtain the indeterminant form 0/0. Thus, we apply L'Hôpital's Rule to attempt to find the limit by taking the derivative of the numerator and denominator and finding the limit of that ratio.

ln(y) = lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\left[ln\left(\frac{1+\frac{1}{n}}{\frac{1}{n}}\right)\right]

= lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\left[\left(\frac{-1/n^{2}}{1+\frac{1}{n}}\right)/\left(-1/n^2\right)}\right]

= lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\left[1+\frac{1}{n}\right]
= 1

Therefore ln(y) = 1 which implies y = e by definition of logarithms.

By comparison, since we let y = the original limit expression, then:

e = lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^{n}

This completes the proof and shows why y converges to e as n gets larger and larger (approaches \infty).
 
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JJBladester said:
ln(y) = lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\left[ln\left(\frac{1+\frac{1}{n}}{\frac{1}{n}}\right)\right]

= lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\left[\left(\frac{-1/n^{2}}{1+\frac{1}{n}}\right)/\left(-1/n^2\right)}\right]

= lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\left[1+\frac{1}{n}\right]
= 1

There is perhaps something wrong in the statements following the expression

ln(y) = lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\left[ln\left(\frac{1+\frac{1}{n}}{\frac{1}{n}}\right)\right]

The problem seems to be in the derivate.
I get
ln(y) = lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\left[\left(\frac {1/n} {1 + \frac{1}{n}})\right]
 
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