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The discussion centers on understanding the mathematical concept that sin(-θ) = -sin(θ) and cos(-θ) = cos(θ). Participants explore the implications of these identities through various perspectives, including graphical interpretations, geometric meanings, and series expansions. The scope includes theoretical reasoning and mathematical explanations.

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  • Some participants highlight that sin is an odd function while cos is an even function, suggesting this is evident from their graphs.
  • Others propose that understanding the unit circle helps clarify why sin(-θ) is negative, as it involves moving below the x-axis, affecting the y-value.
  • A participant mentions the Maclaurin series for sin and cos, noting that sin involves odd powers while cos involves even powers, which contributes to their respective behaviors under negation.
  • Another participant discusses the geometric definitions of sine and cosine, emphasizing that while the adjacent side remains unchanged, the opposite side changes sign when considering -θ.
  • Some participants explore the definitions of sine and cosine through exponential functions, illustrating how these definitions lead to the same conclusions about their behavior under negation.
  • A later reply elaborates on the Taylor series expansions for sine and cosine, indicating that the odd/even nature of these functions leads to the observed results when substituting -θ.
  • One participant connects the discussion to the unit circle, explaining how the components of a vector representation of sine and cosine illustrate the relationship between angles and their signs.

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Participants generally agree on the mathematical identities involving sine and cosine but express differing perspectives on the best ways to understand and visualize these concepts. No consensus is reached on a single explanation or method of understanding.

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The discussion reflects various interpretations and approaches to the identities, with some participants relying on graphical, geometric, and series-based reasoning. Limitations in understanding may arise from differing definitions and assumptions about the trigonometric functions.

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I'm having a hard time understanding this concept when cos(-θ)=cosθ . It doesn't seem to make sense.
 
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Take a look at the graph. It should be pretty clear from looking at the graphs that sin is an odd function, while cos is an even function.

Alternatively, think of the unit circle, and what it means to have a (small i.e. <90 degrees)) ##-\theta##. This means you're going below the x-axis instead of above it. In this case, the opposite side (for sin) goes below the x-axis, and the y-value is negative, while the adjacent side (for cos) still goes to the right and the x-value is still positive.
 
Matterwave said:
Take a look at the graph. It should be pretty clear from looking at the graphs that sin is an odd function, while cos is an even function.

Alternatively, think of the unit circle, and what it means to have a (small i.e. <90 degrees)) ##-\theta##. This means you're going below the x-axis instead of above it. In this case, the opposite side (for sin) goes below the x-axis, and the y-value is negative, while the adjacent side (for cos) still goes to the right and the x-value is still positive.

Now THAT makes sense. I was looking at it from a purely mathematical formula. I did not think of the graph that comes along with it.
 
Well, although the answer is given- mathematically it depends on how you define the trigonometric functions sin and cos...
The result comes from the geometric meaning of cos and sin being the adjacent and opposite respectively over the hypotenuse... when you have θ and -θ, the adjacent remains the same, while the opposite changes sign- thus the cosine remains the same, while sin will get a minus sign (the hypotenuse has the opposite and adjacent squared, so their sign doesn't play a role)...
cos (\theta) = \frac{adjacent}{hypotenuse}
cos (-\theta) = \frac{adjacent}{hypotenuse}= cos(\theta)
sin (\theta) = \frac{opposite}{hypotenuse}
sin (-\theta) = \frac{-opposite}{hypotenuse}=-\frac{opposite}{hypotenuse}=-sin (\theta)Another way to see it, is by their definition through exponentials with imaginary powers...

sin(\theta)= \frac{e^{i \theta} - e^{-i \theta}}{2i}

sin(-\theta)= \frac{e^{-i \theta} - e^{i \theta}}{2i}=- \frac{e^{i \theta} - e^{-i \theta}}{2i}=-sin(\theta)

cos(\theta)= \frac{e^{i \theta} + e^{-i \theta}}{2}

cos(-\theta)= \frac{e^{-i \theta} + e^{i \theta}}{2}= \frac{e^{i \theta} + e^{-i \theta}}{2}=cos(\theta)Another way is through defining them with as sums (taylor expansion)

sin(\theta)= \sum_{n=1}^{∞} (-1)^{n+1} \frac{\theta^{2n-1}}{(2n-1)\factorial}

changing θ to -θ you will get a minus overall because (-1)^{odd} =-1

For cos you have even powers, so it will bring about +1, remaining the same

Another way of seeing the Taylor series, is looking at the function of sin and cos as a general odd or even functions, which under the change of sign of their arguments will give an overall - or + (respectively) sign...
f(-x)=-f(x) , f(x) odd
f(-x)=f(x) , f(x) even
This becomes obvious for cos and sin when you look at their graphs...

Also things can be seen by the unit circle which sin and cos "draw" on a plane (that is closely associated with the exponentials I gave above, because of Euler's formula).
you have that sin^{2} \theta + cos^{2} \theta=1
this is closely related to having the module of a vector equal to unity, thus the vector "draws" a unit circle. Making this assumption, you can set x= cos \theta and y= sin \theta and you will have:
x^{2} +y^{2}=1
if you put x,y as vector components: \vec{R}= x \vec{e}_{x} + y \vec{e}_{y}
you have:
|\vec{R}|^2 = 1
and R's x component represents the cos and y component represents the sin...
Going around the circle, you can see that for \theta angle over the x-axis and for -\theta angle which is under the x-axis, the vector R (starting from origin and reaching the unit circle) has the same x component but opposite y components...
 
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