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The discussion centers around the concept of AC emitter resistance in the context of bipolar junction transistors (BJTs), specifically focusing on the significance of the 25mV value associated with thermal voltage and its derivation from semiconductor physics.

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  • One participant asks about the meaning and origin of the 25mV value in the context of AC emitter resistance.
  • Another participant explains that 25mV is the thermal voltage at room temperature, approximately 20 degrees Celsius, and notes that this value changes with temperature.
  • This participant connects the thermal voltage to semiconductor physics and the behavior of PN junctions, referencing Shockley's equation and the non-linear characteristics of BJTs.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the temperature at which the thermal voltage is defined, with some participants noting that it is typically considered at 300 K, or about 27°C.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definition of thermal voltage and its dependence on temperature, but there is some variation in the precise temperature reference points (20°C vs. 27°C) and the implications of these values.

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There is a lack of consensus on the exact temperature at which the thermal voltage is defined, as well as the implications of this variation for the AC emitter resistance calculations.

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Hello experts!

AC emitter resistance is given as,
rE'=25mV/iE

My question is that what does this 25mV tells us? and where does it come from?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Vt = 25 mV is a thermal voltage at room temperature, about 20 degrees Celsius I believe. This value changes with temperature.

It comes from semiconductor physics where you try to describe a PN junctions diode, you arrive at Shockley's equation which describes its IV characteristics. It turns that the Shockley's equation is highly non-linear.

BJT transistors are composed of two such diodes which also behave non-linearly. So ultimately, when you try to describe the behavior of BJT transistor amplifier, it will be non-linear. But because it's difficult to deal with non-linear equations, the diode equations have been linearized by making some assumptions into what is called the small-signal model. As a results a couple of new parameters come into play, such as r_e, r_pi, g_m.

When you work this out, Vt makes its way into the linearized model and that's why see it.

For more info check out: Sedra/Smith.
 
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Thanks for reply.

You mean it is thermal voltage at room temperature and it varies if temperature varies. Am I right?
It is the voltage assumed on 20°C? Am I right?
 
shayaan_musta said:
Thanks for reply.

You mean it is thermal voltage at room temperature and it varies if temperature varies. Am I right?
It is the voltage assumed on 20°C? Am I right?

Thermal voltage temperature is at 300 K, so that is about 27°C (room temperature)
 
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Bassalisk said:
Thermal temperature is at 300 K, so that is about 27°C (room temperature)

OK. Thanks a lot. :approve:
 

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