Understanding Boyle's Law: The Effect of Volume Increase at Constant Temperature

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on Boyle's Law and the implications of increasing the volume of a gas at constant temperature. Participants explore the relationship between molecular collisions and pressure within a container, as well as the interpretation of momentum during these collisions.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant explains that at constant temperature, the average kinetic energy of gas molecules remains unchanged, leading to fewer collisions with the container walls when volume increases, which results in decreased pressure.
  • Another participant clarifies that the momentum of gas molecules does not decrease; rather, it is the frequency of collisions with the container walls that decreases, leading to lower pressure.
  • A later reply confirms understanding that the relevant collisions affecting pressure are those with the container walls, not with other gas molecules.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the concept that increased volume leads to fewer collisions with the container walls, resulting in lower pressure. However, there is some initial confusion regarding the role of momentum in these collisions.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about ideal gas behavior and the nature of molecular collisions are present but not fully explored. The discussion does not resolve the complexities of momentum transfer in gas interactions.

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Effect of a volume increase at constant temperature: A constant temperature means that the average kinetic energy of the gas molecules remains unchanged. This in turn means that the rms speed of the molecules, u, is unchanged. If the volume is increased, however, the molecules must move a longer distance between collisions. Consequently, there are fewer collisions per unit time with the container walls, and pressure decreases. Thus, the model accounts in a simple way for Bovle's law


The above sentence is taken from a textbook. What I don't understand is when molecules collide why would the momentum decrease? I would think the momentum would merely be preserved or transferred from one atom to another, just like with billiard balls which are not affected by gravity.
 
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It doesn't say the momentum decreases.

The number of colisions / time with the container walls decreases which gives a less force on the walls and so a lower measured pressure.

Note in an ideal gas you ignore any collisions between the gas molecules.
 
Never mind, I think I got it. It's collisions with the walls of the container, not collisions with other molecules, that's what I was not understanding. If the container is enlarged then the moleculues will hit the container walls less often.
 
bobsmith76 said:
Never mind, I think I got it. It's collisions with the walls of the container, not collisions with other molecules, that's what I was not understanding. If the container is enlarged then the moleculues will hit the container walls less often.

Exactly .
 

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