Understanding Current Flow in a Circuit with a Current Source

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The discussion revolves around understanding current flow in circuits with current sources, particularly focusing on how current is distributed among resistors and the implications of applying Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL). Participants explore theoretical concepts and practical implications related to circuit analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether all input current flows through a resistor or if it is split, referencing the behavior of current sources.
  • Another participant suggests using KCL to analyze the circuit, proposing the equation i = i1 + i5, where i1 is the current through the resistor.
  • A later reply indicates that the participant feels they have answered their own question through this reasoning.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about a different aspect of current flow, stating that they were told all current flows through a specific resistor but find this contradictory when applying KCL at a certain node.
  • Another participant reiterates the importance of the current generator's behavior, noting that it must draw in the same current it pushes out, which leads to further questioning about current distribution in the circuit.
  • A participant reflects on the implications of having a fixed current in one branch and how it affects the overall current flow in the circuit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how current is distributed in circuits with current sources, with some asserting that all current flows through a specific resistor while others challenge this notion based on KCL. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact behavior of current in the circuit.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific circuit configurations and laws, but there are indications of missing assumptions and potential misunderstandings about current flow and KCL application. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations and uncertainties regarding circuit analysis.

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Homework Statement


Say I have the following hypotehtical circuit,
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Ignore the open circuit at the bottom.

Would I be correct in saying that all of the input current i goes to the resistor R or would it be split? Because I know for a current source that it has to produce that current i5 no matter what.

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What circuit law could you appeal to in order to find out?
 
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gneill said:
What circuit law could you appeal to in order to find out?
KCL?

i = i1 + i5

where i1 is the current through resistor.

Well that answered my question.
 
CoolDude420 said:
KCL?

i = i1 + i5

where i1 is the current through resistor.

Well that answered my question.
:smile:
 
gneill said:
:smile:
Thank you. Apologies for the stupid question. I forgot the basics.
 
No worries. You got the answer by your own efforts with just one vagueish hint, so that's a win!
 
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gneill said:
No worries. You got the answer by your own efforts with just one vagueish hint, so that's a win!

Sorry. I'm just having some second doubts in relation to a different question but on the same topic.
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For this circuit, I was told that ALL the current $$g_mv_{gs,2}$$ flows through resistor $$r_{o2}$$. Now that doesn't make sense if I apply KCL at the the middle node on the right side(S2, D1).
KCL at S2, D1 $$ g_mv_{gs,2} + i_{r_{o1}}= i_{r_{o2}} + g_mv_{gs,1}$$
Rearranging,
$$ g_mv_{gs,2} = i_{r_{o2}} + g_mv_{gs,1} - i_{r_{o1}}$$

That is telling me that in fact, not all of the current is going through r_o2. See the related thread,
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/cascode-amplifier-small-signal-model.940510/#post-5951679

It made sense at the time, but I am having doubts about it now.
 

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The current generator must "draw in" the same current that it "pushes out", and the only path for that drwin-in current is via that resistor.
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CoolDude420 said:
For this circuit, I was told that ALL the current $$g_mv_{gs,2}$$ flows through resistor $$r_{o2}$$. Now that doesn't make sense if I apply KCL at the the middle node on the right side(S2, D1).
KCL at S2, D1 $$ g_mv_{gs,2} + i_{r_{o1}}= i_{r_{o2}} + g_mv_{gs,1}$$
Rearranging,
$$ g_mv_{gs,2} = i_{r_{o2}} + g_mv_{gs,1} - i_{r_{o1}}$$

That is telling me that in fact, not all of the current is going through r_o2. See the related thread,
And if ##i_{r_{o2}} = g_mv_{gs,2}##, what does the equation tell you?
 

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gneill said:
The current generator must "draw in" the same current that it "pushes out", and the only path for that drwin-in current is via that resistor.
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Ah.. I get it now. So the current source is fixing the current in that branch no matter what and if other currents were to flow into ro2 then, that fixed branch current wouldn't be fixed anymore.
 

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