Understanding Electric Charge Distribution in Conducting Spheres

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The discussion revolves around the electrostatic interactions between two identical conducting spheres, initially attracting each other and then repelling after being connected by a wire. Participants explore the implications of charge distribution and conservation in the context of electrostatic forces.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the application of electrostatic force equations and the reasoning behind the change in force after connecting the spheres with a wire. There is confusion regarding the interpretation of charge conservation and the resulting charge distribution.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the behavior of charges when connected by a wire, noting that the charges equalize. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of this process and how it affects the forces experienced by the spheres.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the equations used and the assumptions regarding charge conservation and distribution. The original poster indicates a struggle with understanding the underlying principles, which may affect their interpretation of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Two identical conducting spheres, fixed in place, attract each other with an electrostatic force of 0.108 N when their center-to-center separation is 50.0 cm. The spheres are then connected by a thin conducting wire.When the wire is removed, the spheres repel each other with an electrostatic force of 0.0360 N. Of the initial charges on the spheres, with a positive net charge, what was (a) the negative charge on one of them and (b) the positive charge on the other?

Homework Equations



F=k((q1q2)/r^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



What I did was plug and chug
F1=0.108N=8.99^9((q1q2)/0.5^2)=3.0x10^-12
same for the second one F2=.0360 etc.. But I got it wrong.
I can not understand why for the second equation it has to be F2=k((q1+q2)(^2)/4r^2). From what I think, since the charge is conserved, shouldn't it be the same as the original equation? Or am I misinterpreting the book or something? I just can't figure out why Fa=kq1q2/r^2 but Fb=k((q1+q2)(^2)/4r^2) or where did the (q1+q2)/2 came from? Thanks in advance.
Sorry, I am so slow with these things.
 
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How did you come to the value of 3.0 x 10^{-12} for F1? The charges are unknown, so you can't solve it.

And what the second equation means is that the charges become equal after they're connected with the wire, so the charge on each becomes half of the net charge:
$$q = \frac{q_{1} + q_{2}}{2}$$
So the force equation becomes:
$$F = k \cdot \frac{q^{2}}{r^{2}}$$
 
First, you need to undrstand the implication of connecting both with a piece of wire. What is going on here?

And Welcome to Physics Forums!
 
jackarms said:
And what the second equation means is that the charges become equal after they're connected with the wire, so the charge on each becomes half of the net charge:
$$q = \frac{q_{1} + q_{2}}{2}$$
So the force equation becomes:
$$F = k \cdot \frac{q^{2}}{r^{2}}$$
NascentOxygen said:
First, you need to undrstand the implication of connecting both with a piece of wire. What is going on here?

And Welcome to Physics Forums!

Hmm... Can you hold my hand and walk me through this. Lol sorry I am so slow. So, Is it because the charge cannot be created or destroy but can move around the wire means that it is the average of q1 and q2?

And thanks for welcoming me.
 
The symmetry of the situation means the charges equalize, half on one and the remainder on the other. The copper wire facilitates this rearrangement of the existing charges. It allows charge to move until there is no longer a potential difference between the two spheres.
 

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