Understanding Friction Force: A 15.0kg Box

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The discussion revolves around calculating the friction force and coefficient of kinetic friction for a 15.0 kg box on a 30-degree incline. The user initially calculates the friction force as 4.6 N but expects 69 N, realizing that they incorrectly divided by mass when determining the friction force. The correct approach involves using the full expression for friction, which includes mass, leading to the correct friction force of 69 N. The coefficient of kinetic friction is ultimately calculated correctly as 0.54. Understanding the distinction between the friction force and the coefficient is crucial for accurate problem-solving.
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Homework Statement



A 15.0 kg box is released on a 30 degree incline and accelerates down the incline at .30 m/s^2. Find the firctiopn force impeding its motion. What is the coefficient of kinetic friction?

Homework Equations



simga F = ma
Force of friction = MU F_N

The Attempt at a Solution



SIGMA F_x = m a_x = F_g_x - F_fr_k = mg sin THETA - mg cos THETA MU

therefore

mg cos THETA MU = mg sin THETA - m a_x

I divided through by mass

g cos THETA MU = g sin THETA - a_x

I do not see what is wrong with this solution. This gave me 4.6 N. I'm suppose to get 69 N. I know that if I muliply 4.6 N by 15 (the mass that I canceled out) I get 69 N.

So apparently I don't know why I can not divide by the mass here and would like to know why...

Surpisingly enough when I rearanged for Mu I did this and got the right answer according to the back of the book

F_fr_k = 4.6 N = g cos THETA MU

therefore

MU = 4.6 N/(g cos THETA)

this gave me the right answer of .54

THANKS!

Those are subscripts by the way

F_fr_k
is the force of kinetic friction

and the all capital letters are one varialbe and are greek letters thansk!
 
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GreenPrint said:
SIGMA F_x = m a_x = F_g_x - F_fr_k = mg sin THETA - mg cos THETA MU

therefore

mg cos THETA MU = mg sin THETA - m a_x

I divided through by mass

g cos THETA MU = g sin THETA - a_x

I do not see what is wrong with this solution. This gave me 4.6 N. I'm suppose to get 69 N. I know that if I muliply 4.6 N by 15 (the mass that I canceled out) I get 69 N.

So apparently I don't know why I can not divide by the mass here and would like to know why...
There's nothing wrong with dividing by the mass when you're solving for μ. But the first part of the question asks for the friction force, which is μmgcosθ, not μgcosθ.
 
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