Understanding Limits at Infinity and Non-Existence of Derivatives

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The discussion focuses on finding a function f(x) that is differentiable for all x > 0, approaches a limit of 2 as x approaches infinity, and has a derivative that does not exist at infinity. Participants clarify that while f(x) can have a horizontal asymptote at y = 2, the derivative's limit can fail to exist if the function oscillates rapidly. A suggested function is f(x) = 2 + sin(x^3)/x, which meets the criteria, although there are minor errors in the derivative calculation. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the behavior of functions and their derivatives at infinity, especially for beginners in calculus. Overall, the thread provides insights into constructing functions with specific limit behaviors and derivative properties.
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Hello everyone, I am just new to this forum and also a beginner at calculus.
I have a question from my textbook. It's:
Find an example of f(x) that satisfies the following conditions :
f(x) is differentiable for all x>0;
limx->∞f(x) =2;
limx->∞f'(x) does not exist;

I think that if f(x) satisfies the second condition it must have a horizontal tangent at infinity,which means f'(x) = 0 at infinity, am I right? and what does "f'(x) does not exist" really mean?
Thanks in advance.

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matts0 said:

Homework Statement


Hello everyone, I am just new to this forum and also a beginner at calculus.
I have a question from my textbook. It's:
Find an example of f(x) that satisfies the following conditions :
f(x) is differentiable for all x>0;
limx->∞f(x) =2;
limx->∞f'(x) does not exist;

I think that if f(x) satisfies the second condition it must have a horizontal tangent at infinity,which means f'(x) = 0 at infinity, am I right? and what does "f'(x) does not exist" really mean?
Thanks in advance.

You are right about the horizontal asymptote (not horizontal "tangent") of y = 2 as x → ∞. And many graphs you have seen to have the curve "leveling out" as the graph approaches the asymptote, in which case you would have

\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}f'(x)=0

What you need to do is find an example that has the y = 2 asymptote but the slope doesn't get close to 0, maybe because it "wobbles back and forth", to phrase it informally.
 
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Welcome to the PH Forums !

It doesn't say f'(x) does not exist.

It says limx➙∞f'(x) does not exist.

If you're just beginning Calculus, this problem could be difficult.

You are correct as far as rational functions are concerned.

Try to modify a sine or cosine function, so that its amplitude decreases as x➙∞ , but oscillates more and more rapidly as x➙∞ . If it oscillates rapidly enough, then the derivative may oscillate with constant or increasing amplitude. Therefore, the limit derivative will not converge as x➙∞ .

See the image of a graph of such a first derivative, f'(x).
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...Plotted in WolframAlpha.
 

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Actually I confused "tangent" with "asymptote"... Thanks for the help from both of you.
 
So, what did you come up with for f(x) ?
 
I came up with this :
f(x)=2+sin(x3)/x
so f'(x) = sin(x3)/x2-3cos(x3) and it is not stable at infinity because of cos(x3),right?
Please tell me if it is ok or not. Thank you.
 
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Thank you.I should have done more exercises.
and also thanks for introducing WolframAlpha to me. That's really helpful.
 
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