Understanding Naming Compounds and Isomers | Common Chemistry Questions

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The discussion revolves around two main questions regarding the naming of hydrocarbons and the distinction between structural and geometric isomers. For naming hydrocarbons, the key steps include identifying the longest carbon chain and noting any branches, as well as specifying the position of double bonds. The example provided, CH3 - C = CH - CH2 - CH3 with a CH3 branch, is named 2-methylprop-2-ene, emphasizing the importance of the carbon count and the location of functional groups. The second question addresses the confusion between structural and geometric isomers. Structural isomers differ in the connectivity of atoms, while geometric isomers have the same connectivity but differ in spatial arrangement. The discussion also touches on naming coordination compounds, with examples provided, although the naming process for these compounds was not fully detailed in the conversation. Overall, the thread highlights the complexities of organic chemistry nomenclature and the nuances of isomer classification.
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thought I'd ask here too..I have 2 quick questions.

One is on naming compounds (hydrocarbons)

a) CH3 - C = CH - CH2 - CH3
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CH3

(the CH3 should be under the C)

what's the key? is number one counting up how many C and H's there are? which element is first?

my second question is on structural and geometric isomers. I've read up on both but just when I think I understand I read something else and it confuses me. In one or two lines, what's the difference?
I thought it was simply a geometric isomer would have to be GEOMETRICALLY shaped differently, but apparently that is not true.

Thanks
 
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BH20 said:
thought I'd ask here too..I have 2 quick questions.

One is on naming compounds (hydrocarbons)

a) CH3 - C = CH - CH2 - CH3
|
CH3

(the CH3 should be under the C)

what's the key? is number one counting up how many C and H's there are? which element is first?

my second question is on structural and geometric isomers. I've read up on both but just when I think I understand I read something else and it confuses me. In one or two lines, what's the difference?
I thought it was simply a geometric isomer would have to be GEOMETRICALLY shaped differently, but apparently that is not true.

Thanks

nm, I figured this out.

however, I don't see how to do it the other way around:

I have some substances and I need to name them.

a) [Cu(Cl4)-2
b) Ag(NH3)+2
c) Cu(NH3)4SO-4
d) Al(H2O)6Cl3

Thanks a lot.
 
BH20 said:
thought I'd ask here too..I have 2 quick questions.

One is on naming compounds (hydrocarbons)

a) CH3 - C = CH - CH2 - CH3
|
CH3

(the CH3 should be under the C)

what's the key? is number one counting up how many C and H's there are? which element is first?
I know you say you can do this but I would like to post a hint for others that may read this.

First count the longest chain of carbon atoms. If the compound (above) did not have the extra branch then it would be pentene. As there is, then it must be added to the name. In this case the branch is off the 2nd (or 4th) carbon atom (but 2nd is used as it is a smaller number). It has one carbon atom in its make up so it is a methyl- branch. Also, because it is an alkene then you need to state the carbon atom where the double bond is.

The full name is, therefore, 2-methylprop-2-ene.

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
The Bob said:
The full name is, therefore, 2-methylprop-2-ene.
I'm sure The Bob meant to say 2-methylpent-2-ene
 
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