Understanding Quantum Numbers and Symmetry Algebra for Keplerian Motion

In summary, the conversation discusses the symmetry algebra of Keplerian motion, specifically the groups so(4) and so(2,2). The structure of so(4) is well-known and the principal quantum number n must be a positive integer. The associated Casimir operator has eigenvalues n^2 - 1. The secondary quantum number j is an integer and can take any value from zero to n-1. The eigenvalue of the "angular momentum squared" operator J^2 is j(j+1). The group so(2,2) is not a compact group, so it is likely that its Casimir operators will have values in a continuum for a hermitian representation. However, unitary representations are known for
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gerald V
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so(4) is the symmetry algebra of Keplerian motion. Its structure is well known. The principal quantum number n must be a positive integer. The associated Casimir operator has eingenvalues n^2 - 1 . The secondary quantum number j is integer and can take any value from zero to n-1. The eigenvalue of the "angular momentum squared" operator J^2 is j(j+1).

Here my question: How is this for so(2,2) over the field of real numbers? Which values can the principal and the secondary quantum numbers take and which are the eigenvalues of the associated operators (Casimir operator; operator corresponding to J^2)?

Many thanks in advance for any help!
 
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Hi, just an observation. ##so(4)## the orthogonal matrices in 4 dimensions is a compact group. This implies a finite discrete spectrum for the hermitian irreducible representations which may be found by the usual operator ladder method. The groups ##so(2,2)## is I believe not a compact groups so I would expect at least some of the Casimir operators to take on values in a continuum for a hermitian rep. The Lorentz group is an example of such. Finding the irreducible representations for the Lorentz group can be a real chore. If you're happy with non-hermitian representations then you may find a finite discrete spectra but not a hermitian one.

Hope this is helpful
 
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Paul Colby said:
The groups so(2,2) is I believe not a compact group
Yes, but the unitary representations are known, first through work of Harish-Chandra. Books on advanced representaiton theory of groups contain the details.
gerald V said:
How is this for so(2,2) over the field of real numbers?
For which physics application do you need it?
 

1. What are quantum numbers and how do they relate to Keplerian motion?

Quantum numbers are a set of numbers used to describe the energy levels and properties of an atom or particle. In the context of Keplerian motion, quantum numbers refer to the specific values that determine the orbit of an electron around the nucleus of an atom. These values include the principal quantum number, angular momentum quantum number, magnetic quantum number, and spin quantum number.

2. How is symmetry algebra used in understanding Keplerian motion?

Symmetry algebra is a mathematical tool used to describe the symmetrical properties of a system. In the case of Keplerian motion, symmetry algebra is used to analyze the symmetrical properties of the orbit of an electron around the nucleus of an atom. This helps scientists understand the underlying principles and laws that govern the motion of the electron.

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