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I know about harmonic oscilation, but I'm having trouble understanding how we derived formulas for gravity pendulum. Please read on.
If a ball on a string ( string is attached to the ceiling ) is displaced from its equilibrium position by angle A1, then forces on this ball are force of string F[v] and F[g].
F[v1] ... component of F[v] parallel to F[g] and of opposite direction to F[g]
http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/1854/nihaloje2.th.png
BTW - if picture doesn't show up then please look at the attached jpg file
1)
a)
Now why ( when angle A1 > 0 ) isn't the magnitude of F[v1] equal to F[g] --> F[v1] = -F[g]?
b)
I assume bigger the angle A, smaller is F[v1]. Why?
I assume it's because F[v] is constant no matter what the angle A is, but why is that?
2)
According to my book angles A and A1 are the same:
I'd imagine angle A being the same as angle A1 only if F[g] = F[v1]. Then direction of F[net] would be horizontal. But since that is not the case thus the two angles shouldn't be the same.
3)
I will quote my book:
a)
But what has that got to do with harmonic osiclation? Is with harmonic oscillation a linear with L?
Can you show me some proof of that?
b)
c)
Second, even if sin[A1] and A1 have about the same value when A1 is small enough, what is the purpose of replacing sin[A1] with A1? Why do we want to do that?
d)
Also, why is acceleration vector a negative?
I realize that when a has opposite direction to ball's velocity that it has to be negative. But sometimes ball's velocity and acceleration vectors have same direction and thus a should be positive?
cheers
I know about harmonic oscilation, but I'm having trouble understanding how we derived formulas for gravity pendulum. Please read on.
If a ball on a string ( string is attached to the ceiling ) is displaced from its equilibrium position by angle A1, then forces on this ball are force of string F[v] and F[g].
F[v1] ... component of F[v] parallel to F[g] and of opposite direction to F[g]
http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/1854/nihaloje2.th.png
BTW - if picture doesn't show up then please look at the attached jpg file
1)
a)
Now why ( when angle A1 > 0 ) isn't the magnitude of F[v1] equal to F[g] --> F[v1] = -F[g]?
b)
I assume bigger the angle A, smaller is F[v1]. Why?
I assume it's because F[v] is constant no matter what the angle A is, but why is that?
2)
According to my book angles A and A1 are the same:
Code:
[B]F[net] = m * g * sin[A1] = m * g * sin[A][/B].
I'd imagine angle A being the same as angle A1 only if F[g] = F[v1]. Then direction of F[net] would be horizontal. But since that is not the case thus the two angles shouldn't be the same.
3)
I will quote my book:
Distance of a ball from equilibrium state can be stated with
, where L is arc of a circle. When at angle A, the net force on the ball is F = m * g * sin[A], which gives the ball accelerationCode:[B]L = A1 * d = A * d [/B]
Code:[B]a = - g * sin[A][/B]
Acceleration vector a certainly isn't linear with L = A * d, and thus the osciliation isn't harmonic. But it becomes harmonic, if angle A is small enough for us to replace sin[A] with A “
a)
I assume by that they mean to say that when arc L is twice as great, a isn't twice as great.a certainly isn't linear with L = A * d
But what has that got to do with harmonic osiclation? Is with harmonic oscillation a linear with L?
Can you show me some proof of that?
b)
First of all, I'm not sure that sin[A1] and A1 are ever roughly the same size, since no matter how small A1 is, sin[A1] will always be 100 or more times smaller. Right?But it becomes harmonic, if angle A1 is small enough for us to replace sin[A1] with A1
c)
Second, even if sin[A1] and A1 have about the same value when A1 is small enough, what is the purpose of replacing sin[A1] with A1? Why do we want to do that?
d)
Also, why is acceleration vector a negative?
I realize that when a has opposite direction to ball's velocity that it has to be negative. But sometimes ball's velocity and acceleration vectors have same direction and thus a should be positive?
cheers
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