Understanding strain in stiffness matrix

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The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of strain in the context of a stiffness matrix for a rod with two nodes. Participants explore the definitions and calculations of strain, particularly in relation to axial forces and displacements at the nodes. The scope includes theoretical considerations and practical implications of strain in elastic materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the definitions of strain at the nodes, specifically why strain is expressed as e=(u1-u2)/l at node 1 and e=(u2-u1)/l at node 2.
  • Another participant explains strain as deflection per unit length, introducing the formula ε = (δ/L₀) and discussing its significance in relation to elastic limits.
  • A participant seeks to relate the change in length (L' - L₀) to the strain formulas and discusses the implications of equilibrium versus non-equilibrium states on displacements.
  • One participant comments on the sign convention used in strain calculations, suggesting that the choice of positive or negative strain depends on the direction of displacement, and provides examples of different scenarios involving fixed and free nodes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and calculations of strain, particularly regarding sign conventions and the implications of fixed versus free nodes. There is no consensus on the correct interpretation or application of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on specific definitions of strain and the unresolved nature of how to visualize elastic behavior in non-equilibrium states. The discussion does not clarify the mathematical steps involved in deriving the strain formulas.

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Homework Statement



node1 node2
O---------------------------------------O

a rod with 2 nodes:
x1=axial force at node1
x2=axial force at node2
u1,axial deflection at node1
u2,axial deflection at node2
l=elements length
E=young's modulus
A=cross sectional area of rod element
e=strain

I don't understand why at node 1:

e=(u1-u2)/l

and from equilibrium considerations at node 2:

e=(u2-u1)/l

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The Attempt at a Solution



From what i understand, if one end is fixed say node2 then strain at node 1 will be:
u1/l

and if node1 is fixed then strain at node2:
u2/l

at node 1, if i assume that the direction of force/displacement from node1 to node2 is positive isn't that supposed to be negative because of compression?

and i don't understand how u1-u2 or u2-u1 works? Can somebody explain it to me and give me an example?
 
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Hello xpp8 welcome to PF

strain is defined as deflection per unit length, i.e. [tex]\epsilon = \frac{\delta}{L_0}[/tex] where [tex]\delta = L' - L_0[/tex] i.e. the change in length of the member due to the axial force. where [tex]L_0[/tex] is the original length and [tex]L'[/tex] is the new length.

[tex]\epsilon[/tex] is important because a large deflection for a small length can easily allow the member the exceed the elastic limit or [tex]\sigma_{y}[/tex] and become plastic or permanently deformed.

Try it...stretch a small rubber band -of length [tex]a[/tex] fixed at one end for some large [tex]\delta[/tex] just before it pops, it can probably remain elastic. then stretch an even smaller rubber band say of length [tex]\frac{1}{5}a[/tex] do you think the smaller of the two can withstand the same [tex]\delta[/tex]? no

This is characterized by strain [tex]\epsilon = \frac{\delta}{L_0}[/tex]
 
Hi djeitnstine,

How do i relate (L'-Lo)/Lo with e=(u1-u2)/l ?

if in equilibrium(tension/compression with X1=-X2, E and A are constant) U1 and U2 will be the same in magnitude but different in direction, what about in non-equilibrium(X1 not equal to -X2 ) state where the direction and magnitude might be different. How do i visualize such elastic behaviour?
 
Seems like a strange sign convention. Let's assume node 1 is fixed, and node 2 is free to move, and the member is in tension and in equilibrium. Then the displacement u1 of node 1 is 0, the displacement of node 2 is u2 to the right, and the strain at either node node is u2/l. If node 2 is fixed and node 1 is free, then u2 is 0 and the displacement of node 1 is u1 to the left, and the strain at either node is u1/l. If both nodes 1 and 2 are both free to move, let's say equally from the mid point, then u1 = u2, and the displacement of node 1 is u1 to the left, the displacemnt of node 2 is u2 to the right, and the strain is (u1 + u2)/l at either node. In all cases, the strain is the same. Your formula seems to choose a sign convention that calls strain positive if the deformation is to the right, and negative if it is to the left. It's all in the plus and minus sign.
 

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