Understanding the math in physics

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The discussion revolves around understanding the mathematics involved in kinematics, particularly the kinematic equations used to describe motion. The original poster expresses a desire to grasp the underlying concepts rather than merely memorizing formulas.

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  • Participants explore the graphical interpretation of motion, specifically the relationship between acceleration, velocity, and distance. Questions are raised about the reasoning behind the mathematical components of the kinematic equations, such as the significance of squaring time and the factor of one half.

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Some participants have provided insights into the graphical representation of speed and distance, suggesting that visualizing the area under the velocity graph can clarify the reasoning behind the equations. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical derivation of the kinematic equations, with participants discussing the role of derivatives and integrals in understanding motion.

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The original poster indicates a struggle with the conceptual understanding of the mathematics in physics, suggesting a need for deeper exploration of the foundational principles. There is also a mention of assumptions regarding constant acceleration in the context of force and motion.

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I just started learning kinematics in my college physics class and I am pretty thrilled. Question is am I supposed to be making sense of the mathematics in the equations? Because I feel like I'm just regurgitating formulas and I don't really think that's what science is about.

For example, one of the kinematic equations is D=Vi(t)+half of(a)(t)squared.
I want to understand why the time is squared at the end and why is it even divided by one half in the first place?
 
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Think of the graph of your speed if you start from 0 and accelerate at a constant rate.

The graph of ##V(t)## will be a straight line with constant slope a: ##V(t) = at##.

The triangular area under the graph is the distance you've traveled.

The area of a right triangle is ##\frac{1}{2}##(base) * (height) = ##\frac{1}{2} t * at= \frac{1}{2}a t^2##.
 
That makes much more sense. I just wasn't thinking about it graphically. Thank you so much man!
 
Do you understand derivatives and integrals? Let x be the function such that for all times t, x(t) is the object's position at time t. Suppose that we would like to know how an object moves under the influence of a force that doesn't change with time. Since force equals mass times acceleration, to assume that the force is constant is to assume that the acceleration is constant. To say that the acceleration is constant is to say that there's a real number ##a## such that ##x''(t)=a## for all t. Integrate this, and we find that for all t, we have ##x'(t)=at+C##, where C is a constant that can be determined by setting t=0. We have ##x'(0)=a 0+C=C##. So C is the velocity at time 0. We therefore choose to denote it by ##v_0##. In this notation, we have ##x'(t)=at+v_0## for all t. Now integrate this, and we find that for all t, we have ##x(t)=\frac 1 2 a t^2+v_0 t+C##, where C is another constant. This implies that ##x(0)=\frac 1 2 a 0^2+v_0 0+C=C##. So C is the position at time 0. We can make it 0, simply by choosing the coordinate system so that x(0)=0, i.e. so that the object is at position coordinate 0 at time 0. This gives us the final result ##x(t)=\frac 1 2 at^2+v_0t## for all t.
 

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