Understanding the Physics of a=0 in u+at

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The discussion revolves around the application of the equation v = u + at in the context of a scenario where acceleration is considered to be zero. Participants are trying to understand the implications of setting acceleration to zero and how it relates to the overall motion described in the problem.

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  • Participants are questioning the reasoning behind setting acceleration to zero, with some expressing confusion about how this assumption fits into the context of the problem. There are discussions about the implications of starting and finishing at rest, and whether this justifies the use of the equation under those conditions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have offered guidance on looking at the velocity function and considering the conditions under which the SUVAT equations apply. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the dialogue is probing deeper into the assumptions made.

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Participants are grappling with the conditions under which the SUVAT equations are valid, particularly in relation to the initial and final states of motion. The discussion highlights the need for clarity on the definitions of acceleration and the specific scenario being analyzed.

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Homework Statement
A motorcyclist starts from rest at A and travels in a straight line until he comes to rest again at B. The velocity of the motorcyclist t seconds after leaving A is vm s−1 , where v = t − 0.01t^2 .
Find the time taken for the motorcyclist to travel from A to B,
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I think v=u+at
I think that once I put a=0 and use v=u+at it works as I get 0=0.01t^2 - t.
But why/how does a=0. I just can't get my head round it.
 
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Alsfc said:
But why/how does a=0. I just can't get my head round it.
Nor can I! Why do you think acceleration is zero?
 
PeroK said:
Nor can I! Why do you think acceleration is zero?
I saw that the answer was 100 and it worked when I put acceleration as 0. Maybe because as he starts and finishes at rest overall its zero. I don't know how else to do it. Maybe it's nothing to do with the acceleration and it was just a coincidence. But thank you anyway!
 
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You need to look no further than v(t), as given in the homework statement. If you still don't see it, plot v(t).
 
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The bike started from zero m/s and reached certain velocity, which implies it was accelerated, its velocity increased.
Then, from that velocity, the bike came to a stop; therefore, negative acceleration, via braking this time, occurred again.
While all that was happening, some time went by.

Welcome! :)
 
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Lnewqban said:
The bike started from zero m/s and reached certain velocity, which implies it was accelerated, its velocity increased.
Then, from that velocity, the bike came to a stop; therefore, negative acceleration, via braking this time, occurred again.
While all that was happening, some time went by.

Welcome! :)
Thank you so much!
 
Alsfc said:
Relevant Equations:: I think v=u+at
That, as you note in the title, is a SUVAT equation. SUVAT equations only apply under a certain condition; what is it?
If a motorcyclist starts and finishes at rest, having been not at rest some time in between, can that condition apply?

So how come setting the initial and final accelerations as zero worked?
Setting a=0 and applying v=u+at gave you v=0, and it was from that that you found the answer. Instead, you could have simply set v=0 immediately, which would have been justified since you were told she started and finished at rest. So it was a case of two wrongs happening to combine to a right.
 

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