Understanding the Relationship Between Current Gain and Frequency in Transistors

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between current gain and frequency in transistors, exploring the underlying mechanisms that cause changes in current gain as the frequency of the AC supply varies. The scope includes technical explanations and conceptual clarifications related to transistor behavior at different frequencies.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that at low frequencies, the conduction component of base current dominates, while at higher frequencies, the displacement component becomes more significant.
  • It is noted that as frequency increases, more base current is required for a specific collector current, leading to a decrease in current gain (hfe).
  • Participants mention the transition frequency (ft), where current gain equals 1, indicating that above this frequency, the transistor does not provide current amplification.
  • There is a request for clarification on the concepts of conduction and displacement components of current, with one participant suggesting that displacement current can be thought of as flowing through parasitic capacitance rather than the base-emitter junction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationship between frequency and current gain, but there are requests for clarification on specific components of current, indicating some uncertainty about the terminology and concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of conduction and displacement current are not fully explored, and the discussion does not resolve the nuances of these concepts.

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i wonder if anyone could tell me ,why does the current gain change as the frequency of ac supply changes?
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Base current consists of conduction & displacement components. At very low frequencies, the conduction component dominates, as the displacement current is very small. As freq increases, the displacement component of base current increases while the conduction component does not. Eventually the base current consists of more displacement than conduction.

So, as freq increases, more base current is needed for a specific value of collector current. The current gain, hfe, decreases as freq increases. The dc/lf value of current gain is denoted "hFE", an "h" with upper case "FE" subscript. The ac/hf current gain is denoted "hfe". Note that the "fe" subscripts are lower case.

At a freq known as the "transition freq", denoted "ft", the current gain is 1. At a freq of ft, to establish 10 mA of collector current requires 10 mA of base current. Above this ft value, the device is not providing current amplification, so ft is the useful bandwidth of the device. At half of ft, hfe = 2, at ft/10 freq, hfe = 10, & so on. at freq low enough, hfs reaches its maximum value of hFE. In other words, hfe < hFE.

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cabraham said:
Base current consists of conduction & displacement components. At very low frequencies, the conduction component dominates, as the displacement current is very small. As freq increases, the displacement component of base current increases while the conduction component does not. Eventually the base current consists of more displacement than conduction.

So, as freq increases, more base current is needed for a specific value of collector current. The current gain, hfe, decreases as freq increases. The dc/lf value of current gain is denoted "hFE", an "h" with upper case "FE" subscript. The ac/hf current gain is denoted "hfe". Note that the "fe" subscripts are lower case.

At a freq known as the "transition freq", denoted "ft", the current gain is 1. At a freq of ft, to establish 10 mA of collector current requires 10 mA of base current. Above this ft value, the device is not providing current amplification, so ft is the useful bandwidth of the device. At half of ft, hfe = 2, at ft/10 freq, hfe = 10, & so on. at freq low enough, hfs reaches its maximum value of hFE. In other words, hfe < hFE.

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Claude
what is current and displacement component?what does it mean?
 
amaresh92 said:
what is current and displacement component?what does it mean?
Think of the displacement current as bypassing the actual base-emitter junction by flowing instead through a parasitic parallel capacitance. This may be a bit oversimplified but for your purposes I think this is the best way to understand it.
 

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