Understanding Thermodynamics Concepts: Common Questions Answered - Test Prep

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This discussion addresses key concepts in thermodynamics, specifically focusing on isothermal, adiabatic, isochoric, and isobaric processes. It clarifies that in an isothermal process, the change in entropy (\DeltaS) is not zero, as heat flow and work are involved. A reversible process occurs under thermal and mechanical equilibrium, while the relationship pV\gamma=const. in adiabatic processes indicates that pressure and volume change together. Additionally, it explains how to calculate heat transfer and internal energy in isochoric and isobaric processes using specific formulas.

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  • Understanding of thermodynamic processes: isothermal, adiabatic, isochoric, and isobaric.
  • Familiarity with the first law of thermodynamics and the concept of internal energy.
  • Knowledge of the ideal gas law and its application in thermodynamic equations.
  • Basic calculus for understanding changes in state variables and equilibrium conditions.
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  • Study the derivation and implications of the first law of thermodynamics.
  • Learn about the Carnot cycle and its significance in thermodynamic efficiency.
  • Explore the concept of entropy in greater detail, including its calculation in various processes.
  • Investigate the differences between real gases and ideal gases in thermodynamic applications.
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Hi, I have a couple of questions for my general knowledge because I have a test coming up and I'm confused on some stuff

1) For an isothermal process is the \DeltaS=0 because \DeltaT=0?
since it equals zero does that mean that the process is irreversible?

2)What makes a process reversible? is that when the \DeltaS>0?

3)In an adiabatic process, pV\gamma=const. means that it equals a constant value not it is constant because if the temperature changes then the pressure and volume or one of them has to change right? But I don't understand how that is constant when Q=0, but then when \DeltaT=0, just PV is constant, wouldn't what I had earlier be constant at \DeltaT=0 too?

4) In an adiabatic process when I use piVi\gamma=pfVf\gamma, means that I can just find the final pressure or the volume after the process occurs?

5)Similarly what does this mean? THVi\gamma-1=TLVf\gamma-1

and if I was only given the heat transfer QH and QL could I substitute that in for TH and TL?

6)In an Isochoric process, the volume is constant, so to find Q or \DeltaU, I can use either =nCv\DeltaT or =3/2nR\DeltaT?

7)In an Isobaric process, constant pressure, does \DeltaU=Q? Is this correct Q=mc\DeltaT or \DeltaU=nCv\DeltaT? or do I use something with Cp like \DeltaU=nCp\DeltaT?
 
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theown1 said:
Hi, I have a couple of questions for my general knowledge because I have a test coming up and I'm confused on some stuff

1) For an isothermal process is the \DeltaS=0 because \DeltaT=0?
since it equals zero does that mean that the process is irreversible?
No. Isothermal processes inevitably involve change in entropy. If the internal energy does not change then volume must change (otherwise, there is no change at all). The reversible path between the initial and final state must involve work and, therefore, heat flow: dQ = dW; dS = dQ/T.

2)What makes a process reversible? is that when the \DeltaS>0?
A reversible process can have a positive or negative change in entropy of the system depending on whether the heat flow is into or out of the system. However, the entropy change of the system + surroundings will always be 0. A reversible process is one that occurs while the system and surroundings are in thermal and mechanical equilibrium (ie. out of equilibriium by an infinitessimal amount).

3)In an adiabatic process, pV\gamma=const. means that it equals a constant value not it is constant because if the temperature changes then the pressure and volume or one of them has to change right?
The temperature, pressure and volume all change in an adiabatic process. PV^\gamma = K tells you how P changes relative to V. From that you can work out T: PV=nRT.

But I don't understand how that is constant when Q=0, but then when \DeltaT=0, just PV is constant, wouldn't what I had earlier be constant at \DeltaT=0 too?
T is not constant in an adiabatic change. Volume changes so work is done. Q = 0 so \Delta U = -W

4) In an adiabatic process when I use piVi\gamma=pfVf\gamma, means that I can just find the final pressure or the volume after the process occurs?
And T. Once you have found P and V you can find T.

5)Similarly what does this mean? THVi\gamma-1=TLVf\gamma-1
Just substitute P = nRT/V in PV^\gamma = K

and if I was only given the heat transfer QH and QL could I substitute that in for TH and TL?
No.

6)In an Isochoric process, the volume is constant, so to find Q or \DeltaU, I can use either =nCv\DeltaT or =3/2nR\DeltaT?
Only if it is a monatomic gas.

7)In an Isobaric process, constant pressure, does \DeltaU=Q? Is this correct Q=mc\DeltaT or \DeltaU=nCv\DeltaT? or do I use something with Cp like \DeltaU=nCp\DeltaT?
For a constant pressure process dQ = nCpdT = dU + dW = nCvdT + PdV = nCvdT + nRdT = n(Cv+R)dT

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thanks that cleared up a lot!
 

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