Underwater oxygen extraction device

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of creating a device that extracts oxygen from water for underwater breathing. Participants explore the technological, physiological, and safety aspects of such a device, including potential challenges and existing technologies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why a mouthpiece that filters oxygen from water has not been developed, suggesting a lack of technology or size constraints as possible reasons.
  • Another participant provides a link to an article about a device that claims to extract oxygen from water, indicating that some technology may exist.
  • Concerns are raised about oxygen toxicity at certain depths, with one participant noting that oxygen can become toxic under high pressure.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of removing CO2 from the breathing mix, with one participant emphasizing that oxygen itself is not toxic but can be harmful in excess.
  • Another participant shares personal experience with symptoms like prickly lips, linking them to nitrogen narcosis and hyperventilation, and raises questions about the causes of these symptoms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the toxicity of oxygen and the challenges of underwater breathing. There is no consensus on the feasibility of the proposed device or the specific physiological effects discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various physiological responses to changes in gas composition, but the discussion does not resolve the complexities of oxygen toxicity or the specifics of existing technologies.

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Hello everyone. I'm sure there is a really good reason as to why this hasn't been done yet but I just wanted to ask and see if it could be done.

Why can't we make a mouth piece that basically takes in water, filters out the oxygen and then expels the water back into the ocean, then takes in some more water, extracts the oxygen ect?

Do we not yet have technology capable of extracting oxygen from water? Or is it just that the technology is too large for it to be used in these circumstances?
 
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Doesn't oxygen become toxic at a certain point though? I suppose it could be used at a certain depth
 
The problem is not getting oxygen, it is removing the toxic CO2.
Oxygen is not toxic, oxygen poisoning is a term used to describe excess oxygen. The first symptom is prickly lips due to the increased sensitivity of the nervous system.
 
Baluncore said:
The problem is not getting oxygen, it is removing the toxic CO2.
Oxygen is not toxic, oxygen poisoning is a term used to describe excess oxygen. The first symptom is prickly lips due to the increased sensitivity of the nervous system.

This is very important. Oxygen can be extremely toxic. If the partial pressure of oxygen in any breathable gas mix at depth exceeds one atmosphere, seizures and death may occur even before drowning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity as a start.

Prickly lips sounds like nitrogen narcosis, which I have experienced myself.
 
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Neumeric said:
Prickly lips sounds like nitrogen narcosis, which I have experienced myself.

I have never experienced nitrogen narcosis, but you will get prickly lips for hyperventillating (I know it first hand). Whether it is because of the excess oxygen, or too low levels of carbon dioxide (which increases blood pH) is another question.
 

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