Solving a Uniform Beam Supporting Problem

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving a uniform beam supported by a string and a hinge. Participants analyze the forces and torques acting on the beam to derive the tension in the string. The key equation derived is T = (mgl)/(2h), which relates tension to the mass of the beam, gravitational acceleration, and the height of the anchoring point. There is some confusion regarding trigonometric relationships, particularly in relating angles and their sine values. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying equilibrium conditions and trigonometric identities to arrive at the solution.
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Homework Statement



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A uniform beam AB, of lenth l and mass m, is free in turn in a vertical plane about a smooth hinge at A. It is supported in a static position by a light string, of the same length l, attached to the end of end B of the beam and to an anchoring point C at a height h vertically above A.
  • Draw a diagram showing clearly all the external forces acting on the beam.
  • By considering the equilibrium conditions for the beam, find an expression for the tension in the string in terms of m, l, h and g, the magnitude of the acceleration due to gravity.

Homework Equations


<br /> \textbf{R} = R_j \textbf{j} + R_k \textbf{k} <br />

<br /> \textbf{W} = -mg \textbf{k} <br />

<br /> \textbf{T} = - \textsl{T} \cos\theta \textbf{j} + \textsl{T} \sin\theta \textbf{k} <br />

<br /> \textbf{r}_R = \textbf{0} <br />

<br /> \textbf{r}_W = \frac{1}{2} l \cos(\frac{1}{2} \theta) \textbf{j} <br />

<br /> \textbf{r}_T = l \cos(\frac{1}{2} \theta) \textbf{j}<br />

The Attempt at a Solution


(i)
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(ii) Determining the torques:

<br /> \boldsymbol{\Gamma}_R = \textbf{0} <br />

<br /> \boldsymbol{\Gamma}_W = \frac{1}{2} l \cos(\frac{1}{2} \theta) \textbf{j} \times -mg \textbf{k} = - \frac{1}{2} l m g \cos(\frac{1}{2} \theta) \textbf{i} <br />

<br /> \boldsymbol{\Gamma}_T = l \cos(\frac{1}{2} \theta) \textbf{j} \times \textsl{T} \sin\theta \textbf{k} = l \textsl{T} \cos(\frac{1}{2} \theta) \sin\theta \textbf{i}<br />

Then since we consider the equilibrium conditions, we have

<br /> \boldsymbol{\Gamma}_T + \boldsymbol{\Gamma}_W + \boldsymbol{\Gamma}_R = \textbf{0}<br />

Solving this in i-direction gives:
<br /> l \textsl{T} \cos(\frac{1}{2} \theta) \sin\theta = \frac{1}{2} l m g \cos(\frac{1}{2} \theta)<br /> \Rightarrow \textsl{T} \sin\theta = \frac{1}{2} m g <br />

And now I am not sure about the following:

Since
\sin(\frac{1}{2} \theta) = \frac{\frac{1}{2} h }{l}
it follows that
2 \sin(\frac{1}{2} \theta) = \sin\theta = \frac{h}{l}

And so
<br /> \textsl{T} \frac{h}{l} = \frac{1}{2} m g \qquad \Rightarrow \quad \textsl{T} = \frac{mgl}{2h} <br />

I'd appreciate it if someone could help me out with the last part of (ii) and also checking whether I did the other parts correctly.

Thanks a lot :)

Honey \pi
 

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Hi Honey π, welcome to PF.
In the last part 2sin(θ/2) is not equal to sinθ.
You know that sin(θ/2) = (h/2l).
Using trig. can you find cos(θ/2)
Then sinθ = 2sin(θ/2)cos(θ/2)
 
rl.bhat said:
Using trig. can you find cos(θ/2)

Let a be the altitude, then \cos(\frac{\theta}{2}) = \frac{a}{l}, but how can I eliminate the variable "a"?

I forgot to metion that I have the answer but no approach. The tutor's solution say that the answer is T=\frac{mgl}{2h}.

Thanks

Honey \pi
 
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