Uniform circular motion lab question

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The discussion revolves around the rationale for measuring the period of uniform circular motion by timing 25 revolutions instead of one or a hundred. Participants explore the implications of measurement uncertainty and the balance between minimizing experimental error and maintaining consistent speed.

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  • Some participants suggest that timing 25 revolutions is a compromise to minimize experimental error, as too few revolutions may lead to high uncertainty.
  • Others argue that timing too many revolutions could result in changes in speed, which would affect the accuracy of the measurement.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of considering measurement uncertainty, noting that miscounting oscillations or mis-timing can significantly impact results.
  • A participant mentions that counting more oscillations can help reduce the percentage error in measurements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of minimizing experimental error and the role of measurement uncertainty, but there is no consensus on the optimal number of revolutions to time.

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Participants discuss the implications of timing choices on measurement uncertainty, but specific assumptions about the conditions of the experiment or the definitions of terms are not fully resolved.

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This discussion may be useful for students and educators involved in experimental physics, particularly those focusing on circular motion and measurement techniques.

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Could any here smart people help me with the Lab question: 3. Why do we measure the period by timing 25 revolutions? Why not one revolution or 100
revolutions?
This is from http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/denicog/labs/lab11_132.pdf
Lab from Uniform Circular motion.

Thank you so much!
 
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hi sunriserocks! welcome to pf! :smile:
sunriserocks said:
Why do we measure the period by timing 25 revolutions? Why not one revolution or 100 revolutions?

it's a compromise :wink:

too few revolutions, and the experimental error will be too high

but too many revolutions, and the speed will change

so you choose a number that you guess will minimise the total error

the book is advising you that, in this case, 25 is about right :smile:
 
You need to realize that any measurement involves an uncertainty (error).
When you are dealing with oscillations there are 2 obvious causes of uncertainty.
1) you may mis-count the number of oscillations
2) you may mis-time the oscillations
Lets say that you can count the oscillations to within 1, ie you may miss one ! !. So if you decide to count 10 oscillations you could be out by 10%...so count more than 10 oscillations if possible.
Lets say you can time with a stop watch to within 1 second...by the same logic make certain that the time period you measure is more than 10 seconds.
What you decide to do depends on the circumstances. The principal behind it is uncertainty.
If 25 oscillations occur in 2 seconds this is not good enough because of the uncertainty in time.
Tiny tim advice is good
 
Thank you so much guys for the help. Maybe you could also give me advice what should be in the conclusion?
 

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