[Unit conversion] From r/min to period (msec)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around converting a rotational speed of 4000 revolutions per minute (r/min) to a period in milliseconds (msec). Participants explore various calculations and assumptions related to the conversion, including frequency and angular velocity, while addressing a specific value of 2.5 msec for the period.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants calculate the period using the formula \( T = \frac{1}{N} \) for 4000 r/min, arriving at 0.25 msec, which contradicts the stated 2.5 msec.
  • Others convert 4000 r/min to radians per second, yielding approximately 2.39 msec, again differing from 2.5 msec.
  • One participant notes that if the frequency is 60 Hz, the period calculated as \( T = \frac{1}{f} \) results in 16.67 msec, and for a 60° conduction angle, it is 5.55 msec.
  • A later post suggests that if \( T = 2.5 \) msec, then the frequency would be 400 Hz, indicating a potential error in the initial statement.
  • Another participant calculates the frequency as 66.67 cycles/s from 4000 rpm, leading to a period of 1.5 msec.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the exactness of the 2.5 msec period, while another provides a formula involving angular displacement and time, suggesting a method to find when the displacement equals zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct conversion to 2.5 msec, with multiple competing calculations and interpretations of the problem presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of terms such as "build-up time" and the context from which the 2.5 msec value is derived. The calculations depend on varying interpretations of rotational speed and frequency.

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Homework Statement


I would like to know how a 4000 r/min is converted to period of t=2.5mSec


Homework Equations


Speed of motor = 4000 r/min
Build-up time of current = 2.5msec
Frequency = 60Hz


The Attempt at a Solution


\frac{1}{4000}=0.25msec not 2.5msec

OR
Assuming it means 4000RPM which is equivalent to 419 rad/sec we obtain:
\frac{1}{419}=2.39msec not 2.5msec

OR
If frequency is 60 Hz, and 1-phase is conducting for 60° we can take period as:
t=\frac{1}{f}=\frac{1}{60}=16.67msec
Conducting for \frac{1}{3} of the cycle (60°), t = 5.55msec

Where have I made a mistake ?
 
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tomek91 said:

Homework Statement


I would like to know how a 4000 r/min is converted to period of t=2.5mSec


Homework Equations


Speed of motor = 4000 r/min
Build-up time of current = 2.5msec
Frequency = 60Hz


The Attempt at a Solution


\frac{1}{4000}=0.25msec not 2.5msec

OR
Assuming it means 4000RPM which is equivalent to 419 rad/sec we obtain:
\frac{1}{419}=2.39msec not 2.5msec

OR
If frequency is 60 Hz, and 1-phase is conducting for 60° we can take period as:
t=\frac{1}{f}=\frac{1}{60}=16.67msec
Conducting for \frac{1}{3} of the cycle (60°), t = 5.55msec

Where have I made a mistake ?

If T = 2.5ms, then the frequency is 400Hz. There is something wrong with your initial statement. Where did it come from?
 
It comes from "Electric Machinery" by Mr. Fitzgerald

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At the very bottom of the screen a period, T, of build-up of current is defined as 2.5msec.
 
For N = 4000 rpm, then n = 4000/60 rps = 66.67 rev/s

1 rev = 2 pi radians

omega = 2 pi * 66.67 = 133.33 pi radians/s

T = 1/omega = .0024 s = 2.4 msec
 
Disregard previous post:

For N = 4000 rpm, then frequency f = 4000 / 60 = 66.67 cycles / s

T = 1/f = 0.015 s = 1.5 msec
 
All right, thank you very much. I will use the very first formula, still it isn't exact 2.5msec.
 
The solution gives the expression:

##\theta_m = -\frac{\pi}{3} + \omega_m t##

Plug in your value for ##\omega_m## and solve for t that makes ##\theta_m = 0##.
 
gneill said:
The solution gives the expression:

##\theta_m = -\frac{\pi}{3} + \omega_m t##

Plug in your value for ##\omega_m## and solve for t that makes ##\theta_m = 0##.

This is the final correct solution.

Thanks, thread can be now closed.
 

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