Universal expansion reaching a point of equiblirium

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibilities of the universe's expansion, specifically exploring whether there exists a scenario where the universe could cease expanding without subsequently collapsing back into a singularity. Participants examine theoretical frameworks and existing models related to cosmic expansion and equilibrium.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the universe may either continue to expand indefinitely or eventually collapse back into a singularity, questioning if a third possibility exists.
  • Others argue that current data indicates not only ongoing expansion but also an acceleration of that expansion, suggesting that the universe may not reach a state of equilibrium.
  • A later reply introduces the idea of a third option where the universe could achieve a state of equilibrium after an initial acceleration, prompting a rephrased inquiry into whether coherent explanations for such a scenario exist.
  • One participant mentions Einstein's static universe as a theoretical model that represents an equilibrium state, though they note that this equilibrium is unstable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as multiple competing views regarding the universe's expansion and potential equilibrium remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of detailed explanations for the proposed third possibility and the dependence on interpretations of current data regarding cosmic expansion and acceleration.

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The two possibilities generally presented on the expansion of the universe is that either the universe will continue to expand, or it will eventually cease expansion and compress back to a singularity. Is there a third possibility?

Has anyone presented a coherent idea that allows for the expansion to cease, and not then necessarily compress?
 
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Zegnarfol said:
The two possibilities generally presented on the expansion of the universe is that either the universe will continue to expand, or it will eventually cease expansion and compress back to a singularity. Is there a third possibility?

Has anyone presented a coherent idea that allows for the expansion to cease, and not then necessarily compress?

Current data seems to suggest not only that the universe will continue to expand, but that something is causing the expansion to accelerate. May I direct you to the http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/~brian/PUBLIC/public.html" one could expect?
 
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Thank you. I have seen that thread. The 3rd option I am considering takes into account that there would be just such an acceleration before equilibrium is achieved. Perhaps I should rephrase the question:

If not this universe, has there been a coherent explanation for the possibility of an expanding universe that eventually is able to attain a state of equilibrium, that is, it will no longer expand, and will not fall back on itself?
 
Einstein's static universe is such a universe, but its equilibrium is unstable.
 

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