Unraveling the Relationship Between Magnetic North and Solar East

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The discussion explores the relationship between magnetic north and solar east, noting their approximate perpendicular alignment and the complexities involved. It highlights that the sun rises at different points on the horizon throughout the year, with 'solar east' being consistent only on two days annually. The variation in sunrise azimuth is influenced by the observer's latitude, with significant differences observed at the equator and polar regions. Additionally, the Earth's magnetic field is generated by the movement of its iron core, and the magnetic poles do not align with geographic poles. Overall, the interplay between Earth's rotation and magnetic properties complicates the relationship between these directional references.
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This morning I was momentarily struck by the coincidence that magnetic North and "solar East" (the direction of the rising sun) happened to be (approximately) perpendicular, but now it doesn't really seem coincidental; as I understand it, spinning of the Earth causes a current that leads to the magnetic poles, as well as the sunrise.

So, if you woke up on an unknown planet with a compass and you faced magnetic north (assuming one existed), would the sun (or whatever astronomical object/objects) always come up over your right shoulder?
 
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The sun does not rise every day at the same point of the horizon. In other words, what you call the 'solar East' lies in the same place only two days in the year.
 
NTW said:
The sun does not rise every day at the same point of the horizon. In other words, what you call the 'solar East' lies in the same place only two days in the year.

I intended to cover that with the weasle-word "approximate", along with e.g. the deviation of magnetic from geological "North", finite propagation speed of electromagnetic effects, general-relativistic corrections, &c.
 
In our planet, what you call 'the solar East' varies widely with the latitude of the observer and the time of the year. On the equator, where that variation is minimal, tha azimuth of the rising sun may depart +/- 22,5 degrees from due East, and that extreme azimuth grows with the latitude of the observer, reaching a maximum of 90 degrees at the arctic circle, where the sun rises due north in the summer solstice, and due south in the winter solstice.
 
Even on earth, It doesn't always work. The magnetic field flips, but the direction of rotation does not.
 
Jupiter's magnetic poles are opposite to Earth's yet it spins in the same direction. In fact, the "north" pole of the Earth is actually a "south" magnetic pole, with the "north" magnetic pole at the southern geographic pole. The reason we call the north pole "north" is because the north pole of a magnet (like the needle in a compass) will seek the magnetic pole located there.
 
jjustinn said:
as I understand it, spinning of the Earth causes a current that leads to the magnetic poles

The Earth's magnetic field is generated by movement of the iron core, and there's a lot more to that than just the rotation of the surface of the earth. Wikipedia is not always reliable, but in this case the article looks pretty reasonable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth's_magnetic_field
 
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